XA10 vs XF100 at DVinfo.net

Don Palomaki · September 19th, 2011, 07:28 PM

Anyone have thoughts on the subject for Wedding work?
It would be replacing a HV40 and used used with a XH-A1.
(The HV40 would be relegated to use as a back-up and for HDV capture.)

Buba Kastorski · September 21st, 2011, 08:30 AM

since I use sound from one camera only, I use HF G10 on the crane along with EX1 and 1D/5D as a A, B and C cams, with some very light sharpening it holds up OK,
I was having the same question and this video Canon XA10 & XF105 - YouTube helped me to make a decision;
both cameras have the same sensor, and 422 that XF has will be successfully converted to 420 even before you will be burning your DVDs/BDs,
but there are different opinions:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xa...anon-xa10.html

Federico Perale · September 22nd, 2011, 04:21 AM

hi Buba
are you able to intercut footage shot with the XA10 and the 5D in the same timeline?

Rainer Halbich · October 18th, 2011, 01:34 PM

Just quickly dropping in to give my thoughts on these 2 cameras.

I own the xa10 and I am happy with it.

I was interested in the xf100 but I found out that you must have adobe 5.5 to edit MXF files.

In this video you can clearly see that the xa10 has a sharper image compared to the xf100 Canon XA10 & XF105 - YouTube

The xa10 lacks external controls, but the touch screen is a very useful tool and makes up for it. The tracking touch focus is a big plus.

you cant use auto audio gain if you have a external mic with the xa10.

The dynamic and powered IS is no good, it distorts the image, the standard OIS is very good.

Mark Goodsell · October 18th, 2011, 05:29 PM

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The dynamic and powered IS is no good, it distorts the image, the standard OIS is very good.

I didn't care for the Dynamic IS either, at least in the situations I was using it in.

Jeff Harper · October 18th, 2011, 10:27 PM

Regarding the XF100 Don, MFX codec is a trouble free codec, at least in Vegas, but the real issue for me was the file sizes, with very little advantage with 4:2:2 over 4:2:0 considering the substantially larger files it creates.

In addition, due to file size limits, you get your clips broken up in 5 minute segments, a real pain.

Don, I looked at the XF100 closely, was minute away from pulling the trigger until I found out about the file issue, so glad I didn't get it.

On the other hand the new Panasonoc AG160 ad AG130 shoot in all the professional modes, is AVCHD and is said by the staff at one camera store to beat the XF100 out in image quality. It's the one I would go with if it were me.

It is now shipping and available in a few locations. A tape store in Columbus Ohio has them in stock, and how I would love to have one.

September 19th, 2011, 07:28 PM	#1
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	XA10 vs XF100 Anyone have thoughts on the subject for Wedding work? It would be replacing a HV40 and used used with a XH-A1. (The HV40 would be relegated to use as a back-up and for HDV capture.) __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

September 21st, 2011, 08:30 AM	#2
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Re: XA10 vs XF100 since I use sound from one camera only, I use HF G10 on the crane along with EX1 and 1D/5D as a A, B and C cams, with some very light sharpening it holds up OK, I was having the same question and this video Canon XA10 & XF105 - YouTube helped me to make a decision; both cameras have the same sensor, and 422 that XF has will be successfully converted to 420 even before you will be burning your DVDs/BDs, but there are different opinions: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xa...anon-xa10.html __________________ I love this place!

September 22nd, 2011, 04:21 AM	#3
Federico Perale Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Posts: 410	Re: XA10 vs XF100 hi Buba are you able to intercut footage shot with the XA10 and the 5D in the same timeline?

October 18th, 2011, 01:34 PM	#4
Rainer Halbich Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 41	Re: XA10 vs XF100 Just quickly dropping in to give my thoughts on these 2 cameras. I own the xa10 and I am happy with it. I was interested in the xf100 but I found out that you must have adobe 5.5 to edit MXF files. In this video you can clearly see that the xa10 has a sharper image compared to the xf100 Canon XA10 & XF105 - YouTube The xa10 lacks external controls, but the touch screen is a very useful tool and makes up for it. The tracking touch focus is a big plus. you cant use auto audio gain if you have a external mic with the xa10. The dynamic and powered IS is no good, it distorts the image, the standard OIS is very good.

October 18th, 2011, 10:27 PM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: XA10 vs XF100 Regarding the XF100 Don, MFX codec is a trouble free codec, at least in Vegas, but the real issue for me was the file sizes, with very little advantage with 4:2:2 over 4:2:0 considering the substantially larger files it creates. In addition, due to file size limits, you get your clips broken up in 5 minute segments, a real pain. Don, I looked at the XF100 closely, was minute away from pulling the trigger until I found out about the file issue, so glad I didn't get it. On the other hand the new Panasonoc AG160 ad AG130 shoot in all the professional modes, is AVCHD and is said by the staff at one camera store to beat the XF100 out in image quality. It's the one I would go with if it were me. It is now shipping and available in a few locations. A tape store in Columbus Ohio has them in stock, and how I would love to have one. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."