Matching XF100 and 5D Mark II/muddy footage at DVinfo.net

Elissa Bogos · November 7th, 2011, 02:09 PM

Hi everyone,

I finally received my new XF100 in the mail, after it was backordered for some time. I purchased the XF100 as a second camera to compliment my 5D Mark II and to use it in situations where the MKII might be difficult.

I've read through most of the manual and have done a good deal of searching online regarding the picture settings in an effort to make it match with the 5D MKII footage. I applied former BBC cameraman Alan Robert's settings (http://thebrownings.name/WHP034/pdf/..._XF100-105.pdf), but I'm still seeing a lot of noise/grain.

Additionally, the footage looks, I suppose...muddy to me? Not in all circumstance, but quite often the results look really bland and muted and kind of *blah*.

Perhaps I've been spoiled by the deep saturation of the 5D MKII, but if I'm going to use these cameras together, it's important to match the colors.

Does anyone have experience with this? Is there a technique in post production? Or should I also flatten the 5D with a profile like CineStyle?

I'd be very appreciative of any help.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Elissa

David Dixon · November 8th, 2011, 12:39 PM

Elissa - see this thread for a lot of info on this:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xf...l-cameras.html

The XF100 comes with settings that are quite flat - both color and contrast. I didn't find the BBC settings to be much of an improvement. If you are doing a lot of adjustment in post, the flat settings give you more to work with, but that's not what I prefer. The link I gave, plus a few older threads give a lot of details on Custom Picture settings that give punchier color, more contrast, deeper blacks, etc. Just try some of these settings as a starting point and experiment.

On the graininess, be sure and use the Gain limiter in the menus.

Elissa Bogos · November 14th, 2011, 09:46 PM

Thanks, David! I've tried some of the other profiles and they really make a difference.

November 7th, 2011, 02:09 PM	#1
Elissa Bogos New Boot Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 22	Matching XF100 and 5D Mark II/muddy footage Hi everyone, I finally received my new XF100 in the mail, after it was backordered for some time. I purchased the XF100 as a second camera to compliment my 5D Mark II and to use it in situations where the MKII might be difficult. I've read through most of the manual and have done a good deal of searching online regarding the picture settings in an effort to make it match with the 5D MKII footage. I applied former BBC cameraman Alan Robert's settings (http://thebrownings.name/WHP034/pdf/..._XF100-105.pdf), but I'm still seeing a lot of noise/grain. Additionally, the footage looks, I suppose...muddy to me? Not in all circumstance, but quite often the results look really bland and muted and kind of blah. Perhaps I've been spoiled by the deep saturation of the 5D MKII, but if I'm going to use these cameras together, it's important to match the colors. Does anyone have experience with this? Is there a technique in post production? Or should I also flatten the 5D with a profile like CineStyle? I'd be very appreciative of any help. Thanks! Cheers, Elissa

November 8th, 2011, 12:39 PM	#2
David Dixon Major Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 495	Re: Matching XF100 and 5D Mark II/muddy footage Elissa - see this thread for a lot of info on this: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xf...l-cameras.html The XF100 comes with settings that are quite flat - both color and contrast. I didn't find the BBC settings to be much of an improvement. If you are doing a lot of adjustment in post, the flat settings give you more to work with, but that's not what I prefer. The link I gave, plus a few older threads give a lot of details on Custom Picture settings that give punchier color, more contrast, deeper blacks, etc. Just try some of these settings as a starting point and experiment. On the graininess, be sure and use the Gain limiter in the menus.

November 14th, 2011, 09:46 PM	#3
Elissa Bogos New Boot Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 22	Re: Matching XF100 and 5D Mark II/muddy footage Thanks, David! I've tried some of the other profiles and they really make a difference.