The image quality should be roughly the same thing, according to the CCD specs. Look at the similarity in image quality between a GL2 and an XL1s for example, and there there is even a CCD difference.
And with the XH models you get a manual iris ring!
Of course no one can say FOR SURE at this moment - exept if there are already reviews on the net, I don't know - how the image quality compares.

The thing that you should ask yourself in this situation is: what does the XL H1 had that the XH A1 doesn't have that I need?
And if you can't really answer that question, go to our PRivate Classifieds board here and sell the H1 :-)
I hope - and really believe - you'll have no trouble finding a buyer with a camera so slightly used.

Best regards,

I have heard that it is a 0.8x which kicks the wide angle out to 26mm (speaking in 35mm still photography terms), that when it's mounted you'll lose the Instant AF feature but still retain Normal AF, and that its price is still to be determined.

To me it seems to be an improvement over the H1. Although you wouldn't think so just by comparing specs, as the H1 has a 2.4" screen with 215k pixels and the XH has a 2.8" screen with 207k pixels. I think the reason why I perceive the XH to have a better display is due to the eye relief involved... when I look at the XH display, it's farther away from my eye than the XL and therefore the individual pixels aren't jumping out at me so much.

Previously answered elsewhere on this board, but yes it is removeable. See attached pic.

Glad I asked on that! Losing the Instant AF could be bummer. Having used the CO .8x on the H1 it is not very big. I didn't think it would obstruct the Instant Auto focus on the A1 but it must....or Canon's Wide adapter is larger.
I figured Canon would engineer theirs so that it still worked with the Instant AF. I guess now we just need to wait on a price.

Thanks

The A1's lens is about a 32.5mm (in 35mm terms), so use of a wide angle adapter would not be so frequent, for me anyway.

You are absolutely correct. There would not be as much of a need for it. However the thought of getting a wider angle in the ballpark of the new H1 wide lens is what seems appealing. Just checking my options if I decide to go with the A1.

Chris,

Could you please let us know if the XH-A1 has an improved lens to the XL-H1? Have Canon reduced the chromatic aberation issues, which the XL-H1 suffered, on the new XHs?

In the UK I'm seeing the XH-A1 priced at £2350 copared to the Sony V1 at £3166. Even if the XHs have more CA than the Sony that price is really very tempting.

Cheers

TT

Tony it's important to make a distinction here as to what the XL H1 suffers in particular and what it is inherent in the format itself. There is *some* chromatic abberation in the 20x stock HD lens, but it is certainly no worse than other HD quality lenses. While Canon took steps to minimize CA in that lens, it can't be made to go away completely without raising its price significantly.

There is a "chroma undersampling effect" inherent in the HDV format which some folks have mistaken as chromatic abberation. This purple fringing visible on some object edges is not caused by the lens at all but rather by chroma sampling schemes of less than 4:2:2. For more information, see A.J. deLange's excellent explanation located here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....2&postcount=44 which includes tips for getting around this issue.

That said, I have not noticed it but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'll have another sit-down with the XH cameras later this week though.

Anyone have any idea when this camera will be on display at B&H? I'm taking vacation the last week of the month and want to go test it out...

GBP2350 ?!?!?!? for the XH-A1 ?? thats a hell of a price. Please can you, umm, oh i just remembered something Chris posted recently about UK dealer recs....... errrr ok i'll stop there then!

BTW, I have seen V1E for a price of GBP2950 (includes VAT). Best price i seen so far for that. But you gotta find that yourself..

Cheers Chris

Yes, I'm pretty clued up as to what is CA and what isn't. In my own tests at dealers the cameras the XL-H1 did have the most real CA. It was particularly obvious in the wider angle which for me is the most useful end of the zoom range.

So I was hoping that Canon may have reduced the CA still further in these new cameras. I'm not a "measurebator" and realise that CA is something that we'll see time to time. I'm not hung up over it but at the end of the day I'd rather have less of it than more of it.

As you've got both the V1 and XH-A1 I wonder if you could/have compared low light performance together.

Stu

If you use one of the uk specific price comparison websites you'll find the xh-A1 price. It's being sold by the UK's biggest computer PC hardware and components firm. Its basically £500 cheaper than I can find elsewhere!!

I'm new around here so don't know the rules yet. I take it it's not the done thing to post dealers names????

ATB

TT

Tony as a matter of policy, to be fair to our site sponsors they are the only dealers we discuss on this site. In the UK we recommend Production Gear in Hertfordshire. Thanks in advance.

Well I had the V1 and A1 together for all of about 60 seconds, just barely enough time to take the photos I've posted in another thread.

Elsewhere in the V1 forum Steve Mullen mentions that he had the use of one (the same one Douglas Spotted Eagle had) to study for an evening in his hotel room. The next morning he brought it downstairs to hand off to Leigh Herman of Sony, who was about to pack it away, when I asked if I could quickly photograph it with the A1.

No doubt there will be an opportunity to compare the V1 and A1 in a variety of tests very soon.

Ah, I see. I saw the pics and put 2 n 2 together and made 5. :-)

Any info is always gratefully received...

TT

Chris

You comment that the lowlight performance of the G1/A1 is similar to the H1. is that based upon testing the cam or going from the specs?

thanks

If you are in LA this Saturday, we are having our H1 seminar at 9am and we will have an A1 or...a G1 for people to play with.

Jim Martin

Bill, re: the image area coverage in either LCD viewinder is something like 95% or maybe a little less. There is a 90% action safe zone guide in the display menu, and when the guide is toggled on, it hugs the border of the visible image. Since it's a 90% action safe guide and since it's almost but not quite to the edge of the frame, that leads me to believe that the display is showing perhaps 95% of the total image area. In other words, nothing new here. Hope this helps,

Yeah, I kinda expected that. Not cool, but not a deal-breaker. Thanks for checking. So far that's the only thing I've found out about the A1 that I don't like. That puts it ahead of all the other 1/3" chip cameras so far.

Will there be a larger eyecup, like with the Sony Z1/V1? The EVF looks a bit uncomfortable compared to the one on other cameras.

One thing I forgot to ask...I've been shooting a documentary with a friend who has an XL2, and the damn thing turns itself off all the time. I'm wondering if these new Canons do the same thing and if so, is there any way to get in the menu and turn that off or make the camera stay on longer. With the XL2, you get a shot all ready, stand around until things are set, and the camera has switched off, and you have to rotate the dial all the way back to the off position, then back to manual and wait for it to fire up. That's the most annoying thing I've ever seen on a camera.

Both the XL2 and the XLh1 have a menu option to tell the camera to put the tape heads on standby instead of turning off the camera. In this case there will be a slight delay when you hit record after standy instead of turning the camera on again. It is a safety mechanism to protect the heads.

Excellent--just like a "real" camera. That Sony V1 is going to have to really be something if they expect me to like it better than the Canon A1.

Dear Bill,

The Canon Standby mode works very well.

May I suggest that you also look in the manual for the "Standby" button.

If I remember correctly, if your camera has shutdown, you can press the Standby button to resume operation.

Sorry, but I am doing this from memory, and I welcome any corrections from other members.

The XL2 isn't my camera, but I'll check that out with the guy next time I use it. I've always thought there ought to be a way to turn that thing off.

Yes you can disable the auto standby mode in the XL2, XL H1, XH G1 and A1, and HV10.

And the GL2 as well... In fact I think that Canon has this auto-shutdown consumer thingy covered for a while now.

Hey, are you perchance the David Ferdinand who worked for Eagle Dolly and sold me a dolly and Trovato jib about a dozen years ago?

Chris, do you know if there will be a large rubber eyecup for the EVF, like with the Sony's? And you already checked if the EVF can be set to black and white?

No word on a larger eyecup from Canon. Perhaps there will be a third-party solution? The flip-out LCD can be set to B&W. The color in the EVF can be reduced, but it cannot go all the way to B&W... sorry. I checked this myself.