Canons Console Software

Toenis Liivamaegi · January 2nd, 2007, 04:48 AM

I just finished reading the Console user manual and it seems that capturing from tapes isn`t mentioned at all?
I have few tapes with recoded footage and imported directly to Premiere without problems but I thought I will give the Console a try. I guess that it just cann`t capture from tapes - I didn`t want to hit record button in rec window as it might overwrite tapes instead of capturing.

Now I feel stupid,
T

Pete Bauer · January 2nd, 2007, 06:25 AM

Console allows for computer-based control of most camera functions including customs presets and for recording direct to hard disk. The job of capturing from tape is left for the capture modules of your NLE. Yes, if you have a tape in the camera while recording from Console, the recording will go both to disk and tape; any previous recording on the tape would be overwritten, so make sure the tape is blank!

Matthew Wilson · January 2nd, 2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toenis Liivamaegi

I didn`t want to hit record button in rec window as it might overwrite tapes instead of capturing.

Now I feel stupid,
T

Na, stupid is not reading the manual and hitting the record button like I did. And so I can confirm that it will overwrite your tape. Oh well, it wasn't anything important.

Richard Adams · January 12th, 2007, 10:34 PM

I just downloaded the trial of console, ver 1.1. It doesn't seem to recgonize my canon A1. Message in the message bar of the software says 'Camcorder is not conncted correctly or turned on'. I have the camcera in Ext Cont mode. It appears in My Computer as 'Canon Camera Storage Device', so the computer is recognizing it is there.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Bill Busby · January 13th, 2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Wilson

And so I can confirm that it will overwrite your tape. Oh well, it wasn't anything important.

I assume you left your tape in cam with the record tab enabled? Say it ain't so. :)

Glad it wasn't anything important though.

Bill

Come to think of it, back in the linear days... there was a JVC SHVS edit deck... I can't recall the model #, 86** or something... if accidentally executing an insert with the edit controller, it would do a video insert even if the record tab was removed. In assemble mode however that wouldn't happen. Weird. Surely that didn't happen with you

Richard Adams · January 13th, 2007, 07:53 AM

Solved the problem with Console not recognizing my camera. I needed to update a driver. This software is great for checking out what camera settings do in (almost) real time. Not sure about the $600 price tag, but as a learning tool for the two week trial I highly recommend it :)

Estebe Verde · January 21st, 2007, 02:50 PM

What is the best resolution and color space you can get when using Canons Console Software with the A1?

How does this compare with DV Rack HD and the Unix solutions?

Danke!

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2007, 02:53 PM

Console cannot change the resolution or color space of the Canon XH camcorders.

In many ways it's like a Canon-specific version of DV Rack though.

Estebe Verde · January 21st, 2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Console cannot change the resolution or color space of the Canon XH camcorders.

In many ways it's like a Canon-specific version of DV Rack though.

So unlike the HVX there is no difference between capturing on tape and direct to disc? The resolution and color space are the same either way?

Which offers the most control over image? DV Rack or Cannon Control?

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Estebe Verde

So unlike the HVX there is no difference between capturing on tape and direct to disc? The resolution and color space are the same either way?

That's correct. Remember that the tape transport on the Panasonic HVX records standard definition video only. The tape transport on the Canon XH records high definition video. The resolution and color space are the same either way on the Canon.

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Which offers the most control over image? DV Rack or Cannon Control?

Since the Canon Console software is tailored specifically to the Canon XL and XH camcorders, it is (currently) the only software that can access all of the wide variety of image controls found within the Custom Preset menus of those camcorders. Therefore it offers more control over the image than DV Rack. Hope this helps,

Meryem Ersoz · January 21st, 2007, 03:25 PM

someone else already asked this, but no reply forthcoming. does console function fully on an intel-based mac running windows? is anyone using this combo who can give us feedback?

Meryem Ersoz · January 21st, 2007, 03:49 PM

i realize that it should work in theory, but it's always great to get confirmation before plunking down non-theoretical money....

Estebe Verde · January 21st, 2007, 03:59 PM

The only difference between an Intel mac and any other similarly configured Intel platform is the trusting platform computing chip the Intel mac uses to authorize installation of OS X.

That's it.

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Meryem Ersoz

Does console function fully on an intel-based mac running windows? is anyone using this combo who can give us feedback?

Hey Meryem, you remember when we met at the ComCast studio north of Denver last summer during the XL H1 road show? That was the demo station I was standing next to at the time... an Intel-based iMac running Console on Windows XP. Works perfectly! Guess we were too busy chatting about other things instead of checking out the iMac-based Console station... but it was there!

Meryem Ersoz · January 21st, 2007, 08:13 PM

whoops, dopey me! i guess i was a little overwhelmed by all the shiny new toys...now that i actually own one, i'm paying closer attention! thanks for the reminder, glad to know it works so seamlessly....

January 2nd, 2007, 04:48 AM	#16
Toenis Liivamaegi Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tartu, Estonia Posts: 579	Capturing A1 tapes with Console? I just finished reading the Console user manual and it seems that capturing from tapes isn`t mentioned at all? I have few tapes with recoded footage and imported directly to Premiere without problems but I thought I will give the Console a try. I guess that it just cann`t capture from tapes - I didn`t want to hit record button in rec window as it might overwrite tapes instead of capturing. Now I feel stupid, T

January 2nd, 2007, 06:25 AM	#17
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Console allows for computer-based control of most camera functions including customs presets and for recording direct to hard disk. The job of capturing from tape is left for the capture modules of your NLE. Yes, if you have a tape in the camera while recording from Console, the recording will go both to disk and tape; any previous recording on the tape would be overwritten, so make sure the tape is blank! __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

January 12th, 2007, 10:34 PM	#19
Richard Adams Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York, NY, United States Posts: 30	Console not recognizing A1 I just downloaded the trial of console, ver 1.1. It doesn't seem to recgonize my canon A1. Message in the message bar of the software says 'Camcorder is not conncted correctly or turned on'. I have the camcera in Ext Cont mode. It appears in My Computer as 'Canon Camera Storage Device', so the computer is recognizing it is there. Any ideas? Thanks.

January 21st, 2007, 02:50 PM	#22
Estebe Verde Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SAN FRANCISCO Posts: 29	Best Resolution What is the best resolution and color space you can get when using Canons Console Software with the A1? How does this compare with DV Rack HD and the Unix solutions? Danke!

January 21st, 2007, 02:53 PM	#23
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Console cannot change the resolution or color space of the Canon XH camcorders. In many ways it's like a Canon-specific version of DV Rack though. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 13th, 2007, 07:53 AM	#21
Richard Adams Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York, NY, United States Posts: 30	Solved the problem with Console not recognizing my camera. I needed to update a driver. This software is great for checking out what camera settings do in (almost) real time. Not sure about the $600 price tag, but as a learning tool for the two week trial I highly recommend it :)

January 21st, 2007, 03:25 PM	#26
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	someone else already asked this, but no reply forthcoming. does console function fully on an intel-based mac running windows? is anyone using this combo who can give us feedback?

January 21st, 2007, 03:49 PM	#27
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	i realize that it should work in theory, but it's always great to get confirmation before plunking down non-theoretical money....

January 21st, 2007, 03:59 PM	#28
Estebe Verde Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SAN FRANCISCO Posts: 29	The only difference between an Intel mac and any other similarly configured Intel platform is the trusting platform computing chip the Intel mac uses to authorize installation of OS X. That's it.

January 21st, 2007, 08:13 PM	#30
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	whoops, dopey me! i guess i was a little overwhelmed by all the shiny new toys...now that i actually own one, i'm paying closer attention! thanks for the reminder, glad to know it works so seamlessly....