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Alex Leith December 1st, 2006 03:46 PM

A1 Eyecup
 
Well the eyecup on the A1 is totally unprofessional and pretty rubbish...

But guess what I found?

The excellent eyecup from the Z1/FX1 fits over the Canon's eyecup like a glove (well good enough to work).

Now my FX1 actually belongs to someone else, who may not be terribly impressed at getting it back without an eyecup... So where can we find a supply of Sony Z1 eyecups?

Holly Rognan December 1st, 2006 03:51 PM

I would be very, very interested in this as well.

That was one of my intitial first concerns.

Chris Hurd December 1st, 2006 04:27 PM

Photograph please!

Alex Leith December 1st, 2006 06:04 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here we go. It's a bit dusty but you get the idea...

Holly Rognan December 1st, 2006 07:24 PM

https://servicesplus.us.sony.biz/Par...spx?ArrayVal=6

Here is a link to the sony site, but I didn't want to sift through the whole thing. I really would like this to go over the stock one. If there are any other nice looking alternatives I would be interested as well (hoodman looks cheap).

Bill Pryor December 1st, 2006 09:06 PM

I want one too.

I made a $30 bet that this one would work, but I lost:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=161275

It's too small. No amount of stretching would make it fit.

If anybody can figure out how to order the Sony ones, I'll jump in line too. It's always been difficult to order a Sony part unless you're a dealer.

Holly Rognan December 1st, 2006 09:29 PM

Would this work
 
Would something like this if slighty modified? Does anyone know the size of the canon's viewfinder?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Eye-Cup-VIEWFIND...QQcmdZViewItem

Bill Pryor December 1st, 2006 09:37 PM

I have a 20D still camera, and the viewfinder is a lot smaller than a video camera. I don't think any still camera eyepiece will work. There are chamois covers used mainly on 16mm and 35mm film cameras a lot, and some of them might fit. They're not the same as the nice big video camera eye cup, but probably better than what's there. I'm talking about these:
http://cinemasupplies.stores.yahoo.net/eychamsmal.html

I used to use these on a CP16R years ago, and they provide a little padding. Lots of film cameras have crappy eye cups too. I'll order a package of these if I can figure out what size. Better than nothing until somebody figures out how to get a proper eye cup.

Jay Stebbins December 1st, 2006 10:15 PM

It is the Sony Large Eye Cup, Part Number 217941401

It seems to sell for $38

I searched "Sony 217941401" in Google without the quotation marks and it turnd up a few places that carry it as a replacement part. I got the part number out of an online parts list for the box of the Z1. Give me a broadband connection, Google and I know anything...

I have been looking for a better eyecup for my 30D, thanks Holly.

Alex Leith December 2nd, 2006 03:07 AM

Thanks Jay...

That's very helpful.

Rick Hensley December 16th, 2006 10:49 PM

never used this store before so cant vouch for them, but they have it

$38.40 plus shipping

http://www.partstore.com/sl/lamps-ba...t-J-Model.html

Wade Hanchey December 16th, 2006 11:30 PM

I used mine today for the first time and was very pleased with it. If you are at all frustrated with the stock setup, get one. You will be glad you did.

Lou Bruno December 17th, 2006 09:07 AM

Same here. Used the large cup from SONY and it works perfectly.

Adrian Paul Spiteri December 17th, 2006 12:37 PM

Don't you think $38 is too expensive ?

Wade Hanchey December 17th, 2006 05:59 PM

Just look at it as a $4038 A1. But yes, I would shy away from telling someone how much I paid for a piece of rubber. They might think I'm crazy. Then again, I shy away from telling anyone how much I paid for the camera too.

Evan Donn December 18th, 2006 12:48 AM

Anyone tried the Hoodman Hoodfinder? $22.95 at B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...&sku=800492389

Seems like it might be a nice option for less than the Sony eyecup, but I've never used it personally. Anyone have any experience with it?

Jay Fisk December 29th, 2006 03:31 PM

Sony Eyepiece + Reasonable Shipping
 
The link mentioned in msg 11 defaults to an incredible $38+$38 for shipping at least to Alaska. Found another supplier that ships for $6.95 that has it in stock:

http://store.nexttronics.com/217941401.html

fast forward two hours: Just got a shipping confirmation. Life is good.

Bill Pryor December 29th, 2006 04:22 PM

I just ordered the Sony eyecup today from that Sony parts site. With shipping and tax it came to about 48 bucks. I've shot several interviews with the standard eyecup and managed to get by. Today I did my first exterior shooting, and the first thing I did after upacking the car was to order the eyecup. If you don't wear glasses you probably can live with the standard crappy one, but the Sony is worth the money, I think.

Byron Huskey December 29th, 2006 05:17 PM

What a great tidbit of information. I myself was concerned about the eyecup when considering the A1, but now I know a good alternative. Thanks!

Bill Pryor December 29th, 2006 05:22 PM

Several people on here have bought the Sony eyecup, and it seems to fit perfectly. As mentioned, there are other alternatives, too, including iCup, and B&H and others sell those little chamois covers used on film cameras a lot.

Lou Bruno December 29th, 2006 08:01 PM

Got mine direct from Sony... Glad I did!

Anthony Leong December 29th, 2006 08:53 PM

I think I will order the Sony eyecup soon.

Andrew Ott December 29th, 2006 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade Hanchey
Just look at it as a $4038 A1. But yes, I would shy away from telling someone how much I paid for a piece of rubber. They might think I'm crazy. Then again, I shy away from telling anyone how much I paid for the camera too.


Same here. I found out that my uncle shoots wedding videos. He's mainly a stil photographer guy but I found out he shoots wedding videos on the side. I asked him what camcorder he uses. "The uh... GL1. What kind of camera was it that you just got?" "Just a little camcorder I don't know much about it..."

Lou Bruno December 30th, 2006 02:13 PM

Not to beat this topic to death, but the only eyepiece that does the job was the SONY eyecup. It fits properly and prevents light from entering the sides.
Yes, it is 38 US dollars but well worth the increase in focus and viewing capability.

LOU " LOVE MY CANON A1" BRUNO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Pryor
Several people on here have bought the Sony eyecup, and it seems to fit perfectly. As mentioned, there are other alternatives, too, including iCup, and B&H and others sell those little chamois covers used on film cameras a lot.


Anthony Leong December 30th, 2006 03:01 PM

Just placed an order for the Z1 eyecup and the total was $54.09.

Bill Pryor January 6th, 2007 12:20 PM

I just got mine in the mail last night. Put it on today and it's a perfect fit. The price from the Sony parts site was 38 bucks. Shipping, handling and tax got it up to about 48. Pricey for a little piece of rubber, but it's an indispensable piece. Stores like Zotz, Tapeworks Texas, etc., ought to sell a package deal with that eyecup and the XH A1 so you could order it with the camera. I thought at first I could live with the standard eyecup, but a week ago after shooting exteriors all afternoon, I came home and ordered it immediately.

Jay Fisk January 6th, 2007 03:10 PM

Still awaiting mine. It really should be available as an option. Does it interfere in any way with the diopter adjustment?

Wade Hanchey January 6th, 2007 05:35 PM

No. The diopter adj is still accessable.

Duane Burleson January 12th, 2007 01:15 AM

here is another option
http://www.i-cuff.com/buy.html

Duane

Michael Wisniewski January 13th, 2007 12:18 AM

Thanks for the tip guys & gals, the Sony Eye Cup is totally worth it. It's like it was custom made for the XH A1. To quote Bill Pryor - "you really, really want the eye cup ..." especially if you've got the XH A1 up on a shoulder mount, and even if you don't.

Bill Pryor January 13th, 2007 10:32 AM

I thought I could live without it until my first exterior shoot in the bright sun. I had an iCuff on an old TRV900 a few years ago, and it works but is a bit of a pain. I don't really like it. The Sony one is worth the money, although it's overpriced.

There must be somebody on Canon's video camera design team who used to be in their still camera division and has never shot with a pro video camera, and he's the guy who came up with that dumb hard, worthless eyecup, or lack thereof. They could put a real one on and charge another 20 bucks and make money on it and everybody would be happy. Except then the camera would have to cost $4,024.00 (USD) and the marketing department would be screaming that all prices have to end in 99.99 in the U.S. or nobody will buy it. Like gasoline.

Stephen Sobel January 13th, 2007 06:37 PM

Does anyone have a link to a picture of the Sony eyecup?

Alex Leith January 13th, 2007 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Sobel
Does anyone have a link to a picture of the Sony eyecup?

You can see it on page 1 of this thread (attached to my camera!) :-)

Stephen Sobel January 13th, 2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Leith
You can see it on page 1 of this thread (attached to my camera!) :-)

duh.... I missed that. Thanks!

Bill Busby January 13th, 2007 06:52 PM

I received mine today. What a difference. Now I have to get in the habit of tilting the viewfinder up to fit in my bag though. Life is tough :)

Bill

Alex Leith January 13th, 2007 06:57 PM

I know what you mean, Bill. I had to move all the dividers in my back to bring the eyepiece away from the edge.

Man, the things we have to do for our art!

;-D

Bill Pryor January 13th, 2007 07:03 PM

One note of caution: A guy who bought the Sony eyecup emailed me thinking he had to take off the Canon hard eyecup and asking how I did it. DON'T TAKE OFF THE CANON EYECUP. The Sony one will stretch over the Canon one, and it makes a perfectly sized base for the new one.

Bill Busby January 13th, 2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Pryor
One note of caution: A guy who bought the Sony eyecup emailed me thinking he had to take off the Canon hard eyecup and asking how I did it. DON'T TAKE OFF THE CANON EYECUP. The Sony one will stretch over the Canon one, and it makes a perfectly sized base for the new one.

That goes to show the importance of reading all threads. That was mentioned before in a post, & maybe twice... but of course I'm not going to go look for the 2nd one :)

Bill

Larry Rodman January 13th, 2007 08:00 PM

Out of stock from Sony right now.

Bill Busby January 13th, 2007 08:09 PM

I bought mine from this place someone mentioned in an earlier post

http://store.nexttronics.com/217941401.html

38.40 + 6.95 shipping


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