XH Custom Preset Tuner Tool

Felix Theissen · January 24th, 2007, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mann

A Mac version of the Custum Preset Tuner Tool is here:

http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/A...OS-X-6194.html

Hi, I have written the Mac version of the tuner tool (XH Editor) and ported it
now back to windows. For people who don´t want to have the whole net
framework installed for XH Tuner. Until last week I had no A1 so all my
information about the file format was from Rudi Schmidts (he wrote
XH Tuner).
If you use any of the mac or windows version of XH Editor use it with care,
because I was not able to test it under real conditions.
I take no responsebility if anything goes wrong.
May be test beforehand with the custom preset libary (I did a little, but I
have not written any of the preset files, so I cannot verify.)
If you find bugs - please let me now.
(As far as I understand the only thing that could happen, that the Canon
could not read a faulty preset file)

here is the link:

http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/XHEditor.html

Regards - Felix

Felix Theissen · January 25th, 2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Hudzik

So any chance of porting this over for the H1? Couldn't you just access some H1 preset files and see what is in them?

if you send me some different H1 preset files (at least you should give any
option different values) and send me the readout from your display (what
option has what value and what is the internal name of the preset) and if you
have some patience (I have to find time to work on this, but maybe it
is not a big deal) I would try to make a H1 Editor.
If you are interested here is the link to the XH Editor:
http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/XHEditor.html
The website contents my email.

Regards - Felix

Chris Hurd · January 25th, 2007, 09:06 AM

Hi Felix, you already have access to a bunch of downloadable XL H1 Custom Preset files... just download them yourself from our H1 Presets library located at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=66776 -- hope this helps,

Felix Theissen · January 25th, 2007, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Hi Felix, you already have access to a bunch of downloadable XL H1 Custom Preset files... just download them yourself from our H1 Presets library located at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=66776 -- hope this helps,

Hi Chris,
I downloaded them and the excel file. May be it´s even more easyier than
I thought. One question, because I don´t have an H1 to verify:
Are the H1 color gain and matrix settings -9 to + 9 in opposite to - 50 to + 50
at A1/G1?
(If I look at the files, it seems to be like that)

Felix

Chris Hurd · January 25th, 2007, 10:45 AM

Hi Felix,

Yes that's correct, and perhaps this discussion will be helpful for you:

"XL vs. XH Custom Preset adjustment scales"

Located at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=81457

Alex Leith · January 25th, 2007, 10:47 AM

Felix, thank you so much for taking the time to create this tool.

It's so fiddly creating presets in camera. Thank you.

Holly Rognan · January 25th, 2007, 11:40 AM

Felix,

I downloaded this to my mac, but the .sit file wont even uncompress.

I have tried everything, and no luck. I really would love to have this tool, so if you can recompress the file or offer suggestions I ould appreciate it.

Felix Theissen · January 25th, 2007, 12:16 PM

I think it´s done.
I have a mac and a windows version of an editor for XLH1 presets on the site:
http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/XHEditor.html
Hope they are working ok.
Again i take no, responsibilites, if something goes wrong.
Maybe try with the presets library first.
But if all works well, then i could try to make an conversion tool
for preset XH to preset H1 and vice versa.
Let me know, if they are working.

Felix

Felix Theissen · January 25th, 2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Rognan

Felix,

I downloaded this to my mac, but the .sit file wont even uncompress.

I have tried everything, and no luck. I really would love to have this tool, so if you can recompress the file or offer suggestions I ould appreciate it.

Hello Holly,

a few days ago i recompressed them and loaded them up to the site,
because i got an email that it would not open. But then it worked.
Have you tried recently to redownload?
It should work with Stuffit Expander.
If it does not work i load them up as zip files.

Felix

Felix Theissen · January 25th, 2007, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Rognan

Felix,

I downloaded this to my mac, but the .sit file wont even uncompress.

I have tried everything, and no luck. I really would love to have this tool, so if you can recompress the file or offer suggestions I ould appreciate it.

there are zip files for the mac apps now online (.sit is still on the site too)

Felix

Felix Theissen · January 31st, 2007, 07:32 PM

If anyone has used these editors:
Did everything worked like you expected?
I would be interested in your experiences with the XH Editor and XHL1 Editor.
I don´t know whether anybody found a bug or even have tested it.
Especially the XHL1 Editor.
With the XH Editor you can open preset files from the XL H1 but the gain and
matrix settings in the left area will have wrong values. The same happens
if you open preset files from XH A1/G1 with the XLH1 Editor. You have to
correct them by hand then. But if you save it then the generated preset is
readable from the camera the Editor is written for.
From outside you can´t see the difference - for which type of camcoder
(H1 or A1/G1) the presets is for - both have the appendix .CPF and
are 40 bytes long.
But the first byte in the preset file is a flag which would make it easy for
an application to distinguish them.
If there is any interest i could add functionality to these editors to convert the
settings of the XL H1 to the XH A1/G1 and vice versa.
I think there is a thread which discusses how to do it by hand and how the
preset values of the H1 relate to the preset values of the A1.

Felix

Marty Hudzik · January 31st, 2007, 08:17 PM

Felix,
Sorry I have been crammed at work and really haven't had a chance to test out the H1 editor yet. I will see if I can squeeze a test in tonight.

Thanks for the hard work! I will let you know!

Marty

Chris Hurd · January 31st, 2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix Theissen

I would be interested in your experiences... Especially the XHL1 Editor.

Felix, please be sure to post this in the XL H1 forum as well.

Felix Theissen · January 31st, 2007, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Hudzik

Felix,
Sorry I have been crammed at work and really haven't had a chance to test out the H1 editor yet. I will see if I can squeeze a test in tonight.

Thanks for the hard work! I will let you know!

Marty

thanks, no problem, but when you have tested, let me know...
in the moment i load up new versions which can convert the preset files
from each other.

Felix Theissen · January 31st, 2007, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Felix, please be sure to post this in the XL H1 forum as well.

i will do when Marty tells me that he has tested the presets in the camcorder...
The apps can convert now if you try to open a preset from an other camorder
model XH -> XLH1 and vice versa.
They are calculated on the basis of what i have read in this thread about
matching presets from H1 to A1.
So sometimes they are exact and sometimes they need further tweaking.

January 25th, 2007, 09:06 AM	#18
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hi Felix, you already have access to a bunch of downloadable XL H1 Custom Preset files... just download them yourself from our H1 Presets library located at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=66776 -- hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 25th, 2007, 10:45 AM	#20
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hi Felix, Yes that's correct, and perhaps this discussion will be helpful for you: "XL vs. XH Custom Preset adjustment scales" Located at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=81457 __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 25th, 2007, 10:47 AM	#21
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	Felix, thank you so much for taking the time to create this tool. It's so fiddly creating presets in camera. Thank you. __________________ Alex

January 25th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#23
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	XLH1 Editor I think it´s done. I have a mac and a windows version of an editor for XLH1 presets on the site: http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/XHEditor.html Hope they are working ok. Again i take no, responsibilites, if something goes wrong. Maybe try with the presets library first. But if all works well, then i could try to make an conversion tool for preset XH to preset H1 and vice versa. Let me know, if they are working. Felix

January 25th, 2007, 11:40 AM	#22
Holly Rognan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coalville America Posts: 244	Felix, I downloaded this to my mac, but the .sit file wont even uncompress. I have tried everything, and no luck. I really would love to have this tool, so if you can recompress the file or offer suggestions I ould appreciate it.

January 31st, 2007, 07:32 PM	#26
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	If anyone has used these editors: Did everything worked like you expected? I would be interested in your experiences with the XH Editor and XHL1 Editor. I don´t know whether anybody found a bug or even have tested it. Especially the XHL1 Editor. With the XH Editor you can open preset files from the XL H1 but the gain and matrix settings in the left area will have wrong values. The same happens if you open preset files from XH A1/G1 with the XLH1 Editor. You have to correct them by hand then. But if you save it then the generated preset is readable from the camera the Editor is written for. From outside you can´t see the difference - for which type of camcoder (H1 or A1/G1) the presets is for - both have the appendix .CPF and are 40 bytes long. But the first byte in the preset file is a flag which would make it easy for an application to distinguish them. If there is any interest i could add functionality to these editors to convert the settings of the XL H1 to the XH A1/G1 and vice versa. I think there is a thread which discusses how to do it by hand and how the preset values of the H1 relate to the preset values of the A1. Felix

January 31st, 2007, 08:17 PM	#27
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Felix, Sorry I have been crammed at work and really haven't had a chance to test out the H1 editor yet. I will see if I can squeeze a test in tonight. Thanks for the hard work! I will let you know! Marty