Analog video line input question at DVinfo.net

Don Jones · February 13th, 2007, 05:53 PM

I want to upgrade to a XH-A1 but I need to know if the A-1 can be used to convert analog VHS and Hi-8 tape to SD before I sell my GL-1.

Chris Hurd · February 13th, 2007, 06:13 PM

The feature is commonly called "DV pass-through" and yes these camcorders have it.

Richard Hunter · February 13th, 2007, 06:18 PM

Don, just stating the obvious. You 'll need a VHS and Hi-8 deck to play the tapes back of course. :)

Richard

Richard Blanchard · January 29th, 2011, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

The feature is commonly called "DV pass-through" and yes these camcorders have it.

I have been trying to use the A/D function but even studying the manual for days, I cannot find the analog input into the camera? Where do you connect the signal from the VCR? Hope you can answer. Thanks.

Chris Soucy · January 29th, 2011, 07:43 PM

Yeah, it's as clear as mud in the manual.

It's the lowest circular socket on the terminal strip on the right hand side of the rear of the camera.

It's labeled A/V1. Ensure that the adjacent switch is set to the lower setting.

CS

Richard Blanchard · January 29th, 2011, 09:09 PM

Yes I tried that plug, even though the manual shows it as an output only. I did hook up the special cable that came with the camera from the VCR to AV1, but when I tried to set it up, several of the menu choices are greyed out, and that's probably what's wrong, but I can't figure out why that is happening.
Thanks for your suggestions and help, and I will keep trying.
It''s a swell manual, except when it is missing what you need.
I wonder if I should hit the "reset all" button in the camera menu??

Chris Soucy · January 29th, 2011, 10:43 PM

Probably not at this stage, just yet.

You in VCR mode?

Tape / card switch set to "tape"?

VCR O/P not by Scart with only a I/P connection and not a O/P connection?

Followed all the steps in the "Recording an External Video Signal" (Analogue Line In) section?

Go through it one more time, by the numbers.

Could be a faulty connection, just about anything.

If that don't get it going, I'm stumped.

CS

Colin McDonald · January 30th, 2011, 07:20 AM

You are not trying to record the analogue input to HDV instead of DV mode by any chance? That happened to me once and it took a while to figure it out. The camera won't upres from an analogue input but it will dub HDV through Firewire.

Jay West · January 30th, 2011, 12:19 PM

Had the same problem this summer and it was just as Colin said. Make sure you have set the camera to DV for copying/ingesting through the analogue-in port.

If you have a Digital 8 camera or deck, you can probably play your Hi8 tapes out through the firewire port, but I've never seen any improvement in copying Hi8 to HDV.

Michael Hutson · February 1st, 2011, 11:58 AM

If you are just trying to convert VHS to DV. Just go this route.
Dazzle Video Creator Plus HD - Video input adapter - Hi-Speed USB - External

Richard Blanchard · February 1st, 2011, 08:40 PM

I finally got Canon on the phone and they explained that my external monitor, fed from the component output of the camera, is cut off when you record from VCR to the camera tape. So you have to look at the little screen on the camera, and all functions are still there.
Yes, you need to use DV, NOT HDV, when copying VCR to computer editing program.
Also to feed out to your Firewire; the camera tape also runs whether you want it or not. So anyway I got Movie Maker and Vegas 9 to both accept the feed from my VCR through the camera. I hope I can remember all the steps next time!
Thanks for your suggestions, and I hope this has helped someone else.

February 13th, 2007, 05:53 PM	#1
Don Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: knoxville tn Posts: 41	Analog video line input question I want to upgrade to a XH-A1 but I need to know if the A-1 can be used to convert analog VHS and Hi-8 tape to SD before I sell my GL-1.

February 13th, 2007, 06:13 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	The feature is commonly called "DV pass-through" and yes these camcorders have it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 29th, 2011, 07:43 PM	#5
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,682 Images: 18	Hi, Richard........... Yeah, it's as clear as mud in the manual. It's the lowest circular socket on the terminal strip on the right hand side of the rear of the camera. It's labeled A/V1. Ensure that the adjacent switch is set to the lower setting. CS

January 29th, 2011, 09:09 PM	#6
Richard Blanchard New Boot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 22	Analog to XHA1 Yes I tried that plug, even though the manual shows it as an output only. I did hook up the special cable that came with the camera from the VCR to AV1, but when I tried to set it up, several of the menu choices are greyed out, and that's probably what's wrong, but I can't figure out why that is happening. Thanks for your suggestions and help, and I will keep trying. It''s a swell manual, except when it is missing what you need. I wonder if I should hit the "reset all" button in the camera menu?? Last edited by Richard Blanchard; January 29th, 2011 at 09:12 PM. Reason: added more

January 29th, 2011, 10:43 PM	#7
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,682 Images: 18	Ah................... Probably not at this stage, just yet. You in VCR mode? Tape / card switch set to "tape"? VCR O/P not by Scart with only a I/P connection and not a O/P connection? Followed all the steps in the "Recording an External Video Signal" (Analogue Line In) section? Go through it one more time, by the numbers. Could be a faulty connection, just about anything. If that don't get it going, I'm stumped. CS

February 13th, 2007, 06:18 PM	#3
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Don, just stating the obvious. You 'll need a VHS and Hi-8 deck to play the tapes back of course. :) Richard

January 30th, 2011, 07:20 AM	#8
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	It has to be DV You are not trying to record the analogue input to HDV instead of DV mode by any chance? That happened to me once and it took a while to figure it out. The camera won't upres from an analogue input but it will dub HDV through Firewire.

January 30th, 2011, 12:19 PM	#9
Jay West Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Red Lodge, Montana Posts: 889	Had the same problem this summer and it was just as Colin said. Make sure you have set the camera to DV for copying/ingesting through the analogue-in port. If you have a Digital 8 camera or deck, you can probably play your Hi8 tapes out through the firewire port, but I've never seen any improvement in copying Hi8 to HDV.

February 1st, 2011, 11:58 AM	#10
Michael Hutson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 249	If you are just trying to convert VHS to DV. Just go this route. Dazzle Video Creator Plus HD - Video input adapter - Hi-Speed USB - External

February 1st, 2011, 08:40 PM	#11
Richard Blanchard New Boot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 22	Solved I finally got Canon on the phone and they explained that my external monitor, fed from the component output of the camera, is cut off when you record from VCR to the camera tape. So you have to look at the little screen on the camera, and all functions are still there. Yes, you need to use DV, NOT HDV, when copying VCR to computer editing program. Also to feed out to your Firewire; the camera tape also runs whether you want it or not. So anyway I got Movie Maker and Vegas 9 to both accept the feed from my VCR through the camera. I hope I can remember all the steps next time! Thanks for your suggestions, and I hope this has helped someone else.