Upgrade from NTSC to PAL???? at DVinfo.net

Roman Nittmann · May 15th, 2007, 05:16 PM

Hi Guys,
I really need a little help from this excellent forum here and appreciate any advice or comment.
I live in Chicago, but originally I am from Europe. I am about to purchase the Canon A1 here in USA from Bhphotovideo store and make upgrade to the PAL ver. for $500 and within one year to go back to Europe and use it there.

My big question is: Will I have with the PAL upgrade the identical camera (options) like if I would buy the original PAL version?

Thank you very much for any input…….it is very important to me
Roman

Roman Nittmann · May 16th, 2007, 01:29 PM

Please...anybody have experience with upgrading from NTSC camera to PAL version?????

Thank you

Mark Hislop · May 17th, 2007, 04:26 PM

Roman: We just had XL-H1's upgraded 3 weeks ago. The cameras have all the same functionality as before, as far as I know. They now have an extra menu which give me 1080 50i. Canon turned around the cameras within a day, and the $500 included return shipping. (We paid for shipping to them.)

But since I didn't start out with a PAL camera, I can't answer your question of whether or not an "upgraded" camera will be the same as the PAL orginal. I think that is the case, but I don't know it for a fact.

Mark

Chris Hurd · May 17th, 2007, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Nittmann

Will I have with the PAL upgrade the identical camera (options) like if I would buy the original PAL version?

Yes -- you most definitely will. Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

Roman Nittmann · May 18th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Thanks a lot, that it exactly what I needed to hear:)

Roman

David Chia · May 23rd, 2007, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Canon turned around the cameras within a day, and the $500 included return shipping.

I am about to buy a NTSC XHA1 in the U.S. I want to upgrade it to the 50i/25f option.As I am from PAL land.

I called the Canon serivce center in N.J (732) 521-7007. I was told by a customer on the phone that I can actually buy the upgrade option through the phone at 1800-8284040. The upgrade can be downloaded throught the net. You don't have to actually send the camera in to the service center.The customer service personal said that it would cost U.S$599 to have it done.

Mark can you verify this? Because you did it for 500, That is 100 less for what they are now asking.

Paul Cascio · May 23rd, 2007, 04:23 AM

If that's the case, it kind of sucks they would charge so much for it.

Mark Hislop · May 24th, 2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Chia

I am about to buy a NTSC XHA1 in the U.S. I want to upgrade it to the 50i/25f option.As I am from PAL land.

I called the Canon serivce center in N.J (732) 521-7007. I was told by a customer on the phone that I can actually buy the upgrade option through the phone at 1800-8284040. The upgrade can be downloaded throught the net. You don't have to actually send the camera in to the service center.The customer service personal said that it would cost U.S$599 to have it done.

Mark can you verify this? Because you did it for 500, That is 100 less for what they are now asking.

Sorry, I just saw this post.

I live near Chicago. There is a Canon service center here, and even they would not do the upgrade. They told me that it is only done in New Jersey. I would have liked to do it via the internet, but Canon told me they will not do it that way.

For the extra $100, I would do it through the internet if you can. Even though Canon paid the return shipping, I still had to ship the camera there. And there is always the risk of damage or loss while shipping.

Hope this helps some.

Mark

Denis Murphy · May 29th, 2007, 12:35 PM

I'm thinking of buying an AH1. Is this PAL-NTSC upgrade business something we might expect to be standard in future models? I notice Canon offering cashback to current US purchasers of the AH1 - is this a sign that there's a new model on the way?

Sergio Garcia · May 31st, 2007, 12:48 AM

I'm in the opposite situation. I have a PAL A1 and I'd really love to have 24f and 30f in my camera because I'm very interested in creating HD-DVD's from my job. (HD-DVD format does not support european frame rates, so conversions are needed).

A (free) firmware update would be great because after paying 3500€ I don't want to pay more but I want ALL the features... It would be great.

I guess the upgrades are official but if anyone knows about unofficial upgrades that info would be extremely appreciated...

May 15th, 2007, 05:16 PM	#1
Roman Nittmann New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: chicago illinois Posts: 15	Upgrade from NTSC to PAL???? Hi Guys, I really need a little help from this excellent forum here and appreciate any advice or comment. I live in Chicago, but originally I am from Europe. I am about to purchase the Canon A1 here in USA from Bhphotovideo store and make upgrade to the PAL ver. for $500 and within one year to go back to Europe and use it there. My big question is: Will I have with the PAL upgrade the identical camera (options) like if I would buy the original PAL version? Thank you very much for any input…….it is very important to me Roman

May 18th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#5
Roman Nittmann New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: chicago illinois Posts: 15	Thank you guys! Thanks a lot, that it exactly what I needed to hear:) Roman

May 23rd, 2007, 04:23 AM	#7
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	If that's the case, it kind of sucks they would charge so much for it. __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

May 29th, 2007, 12:35 PM	#9
Denis Murphy Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 47	will this be a standard feature soon? I'm thinking of buying an AH1. Is this PAL-NTSC upgrade business something we might expect to be standard in future models? I notice Canon offering cashback to current US purchasers of the AH1 - is this a sign that there's a new model on the way?

May 16th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#2
Roman Nittmann New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: chicago illinois Posts: 15	Please...anybody have experience with upgrading from NTSC camera to PAL version????? Thank you

May 17th, 2007, 04:26 PM	#3
Mark Hislop New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Aurora, Illinois Posts: 21	Roman: We just had XL-H1's upgraded 3 weeks ago. The cameras have all the same functionality as before, as far as I know. They now have an extra menu which give me 1080 50i. Canon turned around the cameras within a day, and the $500 included return shipping. (We paid for shipping to them.) But since I didn't start out with a PAL camera, I can't answer your question of whether or not an "upgraded" camera will be the same as the PAL orginal. I think that is the case, but I don't know it for a fact. Mark

May 31st, 2007, 12:48 AM	#10
Sergio Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palma de Mallorca, Spain Posts: 32	I'm in the opposite situation. I have a PAL A1 and I'd really love to have 24f and 30f in my camera because I'm very interested in creating HD-DVD's from my job. (HD-DVD format does not support european frame rates, so conversions are needed). A (free) firmware update would be great because after paying 3500€ I don't want to pay more but I want ALL the features... It would be great. I guess the upgrades are official but if anyone knows about unofficial upgrades that info would be extremely appreciated...