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Old May 21st, 2007, 09:15 PM   #1
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Strength of external mike a manufacturing design flaw?

I've had my hands on 2 different A1's. The first was a rental picked up by somebody for me. The external mike was so loose it looked just about ready to fall off. The second, a brand new camera, also had a loose mike. Anyone else encountered this?
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Old May 21st, 2007, 10:48 PM   #2
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A frequently asked question -- see http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....40&postcount=7

It's not a flaw, it's a feature.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:12 AM   #3
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Thanks. Good to know that but I will say the way they've done it, doesn't inspire confidence.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 04:58 PM   #4
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I have had my A1 for less than a week and the accessory mike holder has snapped off. This held on by two small screws, a weak point on the camera!
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:14 PM   #5
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I have had my A1 for less than a week and the accessory mike holder has snapped off. This held on by two small screws, a weak point on the camera!
Yes I agree, it is a weak point of the camera.... If you are using it as a hammer to drive nails!
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:15 PM   #6
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I have had my A1 for less than a week and the accessory mike holder has snapped off.
All by itself? :)

Seriously, the mount may not be that strong, but if it is snapped off there must be quite a severe shock felt by the rest of the camera too. Try to think of it as a precision instrument, not a mallet.

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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:44 PM   #7
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I took the mic holder off (and saved all the parts).
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 10:00 PM   #8
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No problems here

Man I'v been shooting my A1 for 4 months now in every situation you can think of with a Azden SMG-1x on it with no problems at all. It has taken a couple of pretty good whacks no that I think about it and still tight.

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Old May 23rd, 2007, 03:31 AM   #9
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No, I didn't use the camera as a hammer, the camera was shipped with the item broken off. I only posted this because I thought the connection looks weak and could imagine the holder snapping off with a moderate knock.

I will get a replacement holder in due course.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 07:29 AM   #10
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The external holder may have been designed to fail before an applied stress takes out some other part of the camcorder, a bit like a properly sized fuse will blow before the circuits it protects melt. After all, a shotgun mic in the holder can provide a large lever and a too-strong holder could result in damage to the mic and/or camcorder.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 07:45 AM   #11
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The external holder may have been designed to fail before an applied stress takes out some other part of the camcorder, a bit like a properly sized fuse will blow before the circuits it protects melt. After all, a shotgun mic in the holder can provide a large lever and a too-strong holder could result in damage to the mic and/or camcorder.
Exactly - that's why I find the Sony's solution (a rubber hinge) quite smart.
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mine's screwed in so tight I cant get it off!
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