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Antoine Fabi August 15th, 2004 02:57 PM

can it record 4:2:2 color sampling ?

Gary Bettan August 16th, 2004 09:19 AM

Ok guys - here is what I was able to work out for DV Info Net members. We have put together a special offer from Focus and Videoguys for a $50 Instant Rebate coupon. Just use coupon code DVINFOFS4 when you order on line or over the phone.

This is in additon to our FS-4 launch promotion:

FireStore Fs-4 Pre-Order price is $749.95
Bonus! Free extra battery - Custom Removeable Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery Pack (90 Min run time) $129 (value)

So DV Info Net memebers will get the FireStore FS-4 for $699.95 plus a FREE 2nd battery! http://www.videoguys.com/FireStore.html

Gary
Videoguys.com

Mark Williams August 16th, 2004 11:26 AM

Gary,

This is a great price and promotion. Thanks for your efforts. I bought a RT2500 editing package from you guys a couple of years ago and got great service.

Regards,

Mark

Barry Green August 16th, 2004 11:33 AM

Wow -- Firestore FS-4 sure looks tempting, and that offer looks great too!

The eternal question: can you play back clips from the Firestore FS-4? Can you navigate to the various clips, select one, hit "play" and have it play back on the camera's LCD?

Also, when used as a firewire drive, can you copy your edited master clip TO the FS-4, and then have the FS-4 play that finished clip out its firewire port, to record on tape?

If so, I'm placing my order!

Antoine Fabi August 17th, 2004 04:48 PM

it sure looks like it will save a lot of shooting and capturing time.

can we capture 4:2:2 ?

Jean-Philippe Archibald August 17th, 2004 04:52 PM

Antoine,

Hi fellow Québécois!

It definitely cannot capture 4:2:2. It capture the DV stream via firewire wich is 25 mbps 4:1:1 in NTSC or 4:2:0 in PAL.

Matt McEwen August 20th, 2004 10:07 AM

Hi,

To answer some questions on this thread...FireStore will only record DV25 streams (NTSC-DV, 4:1:1, 8-bit or PAL-DV, 4:2:0, 8-bit) in native NLE file formats using DTE Technology such as QuickTime, Avid OMF, AVI etc.

It is possible to playback clips from FireStore to your camcorder (the camcorder has to be set to VTR mode).

It is also possible to copy edited sequences to FS-4 from your NLE as long as the sequence is saved as a RawDV (.dv) file.

Hope that helps.

Matt McEwen

Antoine Fabi August 20th, 2004 12:18 PM

Bonjour Jean-Philippe !

just saw that you're from Saguenay Lac St-Jean...
Went there a few years ago to shoot some footage. Very nice place, great people !
Hope you have a better summer than we have here in Sherbrooke...always raining !

Matt,

thanks for the info.

Christopher Reynolds August 20th, 2004 09:31 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Matt McEwen : Hi,

To answer some questions on this thread...FireStore will only record DV25 streams (NTSC-DV, 4:1:1, 8-bit or PAL-DV, 4:2:0, 8-bit) in native NLE file formats using DTE Technology such as QuickTime, Avid OMF, AVI etc.

-->>>

Does this 8 bit recording stream have anything to do with (or relate to) the DSP on the camera itself? Bear with me here as I'm new to alot of the technical aspects of DV technology, pretty much all of it.

Matt McEwen August 20th, 2004 11:26 PM

Hi Christopher,

The 8-bit does not have anything to do with the DSP of the camcorder. It is the video signal recording format - just like what is recorded on tape. I am not as familiar with the XL2 yet, but I know the JVC GY-DV5000 has a 12-bit A/D and a 24-bit DSP, but like all DV camcorders, records an 8-bit DV signal to tape.

Hope that helps.

Matt McEwen

Don Berube August 21st, 2004 09:48 AM

Christopher, please do feel free to ask away any and all questions which you may have - we are all happy to help out!

The GY-DV5000 certainly is a nice camera with a ton of dynamic range. The DR-DV5000 interfaces seamlessly with the camera and offers some nice interaction and user feedback display with the viewfinder of the GY-DV5000.

The XL2 has 12-bit DSP, just like the Panasonic DVX100a. The new metal back plate of the XL2, with heavy duty metal construction and three (3) anchor points, will easily support the FireStore FS-3 and the new FireStore FS-4.

Christopher, think of a DAT deck as an example. A DAT deck records a 16-bit 48kHz stereo audio sample, regardless of the quality of the microphone, preamp or mixer used. As our good friend Matt indicates, the FireStore records an 8-bit 25megabit DV stream in your choice of NLE format which will ensure that your FireStore capture files will be immediately compatible with most any brand of digital video editing software.

Please do keep in touch,

- don

Chris Hurd August 23rd, 2004 12:02 AM

Some FS4 shots from WEVA last week:

www.dvinfo.net/media/fs4a.jpg
www.dvinfo.net/media/fs4b.jpg
www.dvinfo.net/media/fs4c.jpg


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