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Old August 9th, 2005, 06:00 PM   #16
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Hi, Ash,

Yes, I am trying to match both cameras (XL1 and XL2), but I find the XL1 more saturated than the XL2.

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You'll find a thread here in this XL2 Watchdog forum about the fact that the XL1 colors are more saturated because the default setting makes them 'poppy' even though if you put them on a scope you'll find they are not broadcast legal. It appears that Canon listened to users complain about having to color correct to be broadcast legal and made the default for the XL2 colors closer to broadcast legal, which all users now see as 'flatter' than the default 'poppy' colors of the XL1.
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Old August 9th, 2005, 09:08 PM   #17
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Boost the saturation 2 notches on the XL2... you also will want to make the knee "high" and the black "press"...



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Old August 10th, 2005, 05:11 AM   #18
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Boost the saturation 2 notches on the XL2... you also will want to make the knee "high" and the black "press"...ash =o)
And then be prepared to correct in post if you want to go to broadcast, right Ash?
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:09 PM   #19
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You might have to add a broadcast safe filter in post. The XL2 does a decent job of "gating" colors even when you boost the saturation. The entire idea of broadcast legal is that you supply a tape, that is then dubbed, sometimes 5 or 6 generations deep on 3/4" tape. Colors that always looked fine in DV world will look like blown out crap. That is the main reason local commercials have that "look" '




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Old August 15th, 2005, 05:17 PM   #20
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Hi, Patrick and Ash,
I've tried to match my shots by boosting the XL2 saturation. I am having similar shots with the XL1. I am using my XL1 only for master shots, while I use my XL2 for medium, extreme and other shots. You see I am "a one man studio",ie, director of photography, cameraman, in charge of light and sound, editor, graphics, effects and so on. I am trying a double camera setup to, at least, save time.

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Old August 15th, 2005, 05:30 PM   #21
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Ash,

You mentioned in a thread somewhere the technique you've used to 'match' an XL2 to an XL1s or XL1. I failed to write it down. I know I'm not recalling all of it but it included boosting the XL2 default Color Gain preset to +2 and something else. Another senior moment!

Ash, could you maybe give us a XL2 Setup for XL1 matching so we could load it as a preset?

I've turned into a real preset beggar here, but hopefully others are benefiting from my shameless setup supplications.

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