How did Kaku capture the 24F? at DVinfo.net

Barlow Elton · December 15th, 2005, 03:00 PM

I'm looking to test an H1 from a local rental outfit very soon, and would like to know how to get the actual 24F m2t's off of the tape, whether it be Mac or PC. I have FCP 5, but on the PC an older Canopus DVStorm system. Not sure what I can do with the PC/Canopus as that is my only firewire port, and probably non-standard at that.

Any ideas? I've looked into DVHScap and HDVxDV on the Mac, but not sure if either one of those solutions can bring in the actual stream. Would prefer to get the raw m2t's without transcoding or recompressing to get the 24p sequence.

If I have worthy footage, I'll post it, but need to figure out the 24F thing on firewire ingest.

Robert Mann Z. · December 15th, 2005, 03:41 PM

edius 3.6 ...update should be out Friday its free if you have 3 a bonus is you can use your storm card

Barlow Elton · December 15th, 2005, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Mann Z.

edius 3.6 ...update should be out Friday its free if you have 3 a bonus is you can use your storm card

Thanks Robert. Not sure I want to buy Edius just to capture a little footage.
Do they have a working demo that wouldn't watermark the clips?

Barlow Elton · December 15th, 2005, 03:57 PM

Actually, it appears this may be an option. There's a 30 day unlimited trial. Cool. Should this easily work with a DVStorm 2 card?

Edit: It appears it requires an OHCI card. No big deal, I can get one cheaply, but I would prefer a simple solution with my G5.

Anything else out there?

Randy Donato · December 15th, 2005, 06:16 PM

You are right on the OHCI part...and I hate to bust the bubble but I am not sure the demo will be the 3.61 version which will allow full 24p support for HDV capture... I will put the powers to be on notice that the new Canon buyers would like to try edius and see how quick it can get done.BTW I don't think 3.61 will be up until next week.

Sky are you getting an H1 and wadda you think about it?

Barlow Elton · December 15th, 2005, 06:25 PM

Hey that's great Randy! Appreciate you goin' to bat for us.

Is the Kaku thing a mystery? I believe many of those clips are actual 24F, and I think he was using a Mac system, so how did he get the 24F stream to capture properly?

Robert Mann Z. · December 15th, 2005, 09:48 PM

Randy is a big wig at the very friendly canopus forum, you guys are welcome to take a look and get more feedback when 3.6 hits the servers to see what users think about the h1 intergration...i have a feeling that 3.6 hits the server 2morrow, due to that fact that it was promised to me before the holidays and updates are always done on friday, they are also always done when i leave town so i have to wait a few days and just so happens i'm leaving town 2morrow

Randy i'm getting a hvx, but as an edit studio it would be nice to have the ability to please...i shot about 1/2 hour of stuff using an H1 at NAB POST and a cannot wait to edit it, but alas with the camera i have no way to get on my system, so i may rent it for a day to see what the limits are...

i hate working with hdv becouse of the deck issues we really need a pro deck that plays back every hdv format

Robert Mann Z. · December 16th, 2005, 01:15 AM

ok nevermind my release time for 3.6, i just got word that i was wrong, it still might be a friday release just not this friday....

Barlow Elton · December 16th, 2005, 02:05 PM

Thanks again, Robert.

Nick Hiltgen · December 16th, 2005, 04:40 PM

So we're still not 100% on how to capture 24F with a mac? Has anyone heard a time frame from FCP?

Barlow Elton · December 16th, 2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Hiltgen

So we're still not 100% on how to capture 24F with a mac? Has anyone heard a time frame from FCP?

I'm gonna try on mon/tues with DVHSCap and HDVxDV. If neither one works, I'll try Edius demo once it's released.

Kaku Ito · December 19th, 2005, 01:33 AM

Sorry, I missed this thread. I've been busy with my real work.
I captured all of the XLH1 clips in all formats with beta version of LumiereHD provided by Frederic Haubrich. It was a special beta version that I believe, so you might have to ask Frederic for the specific questions.

It was XLH1 connected to Power Mac Dual G5 via firewire, LumiereHD to capture, and saved as m2t files. No conversion what so ever.

Robert Mann Z. · December 19th, 2005, 05:48 PM

3.61 is here FULL H1 support... :)

Randy Donato · December 19th, 2005, 06:43 PM

The demo version does not have it but hopefully soon...it is being worked on as we speak....

Barlow Elton · December 20th, 2005, 12:14 AM

Thanks Randy, looking forward to giving Edius a whirl. Interested to see where it bests FCP.

December 15th, 2005, 03:00 PM	#1
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	How did Kaku capture the 24F? I'm looking to test an H1 from a local rental outfit very soon, and would like to know how to get the actual 24F m2t's off of the tape, whether it be Mac or PC. I have FCP 5, but on the PC an older Canopus DVStorm system. Not sure what I can do with the PC/Canopus as that is my only firewire port, and probably non-standard at that. Any ideas? I've looked into DVHScap and HDVxDV on the Mac, but not sure if either one of those solutions can bring in the actual stream. Would prefer to get the raw m2t's without transcoding or recompressing to get the 24p sequence. If I have worthy footage, I'll post it, but need to figure out the 24F thing on firewire ingest.

December 16th, 2005, 04:40 PM	#10
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	So we're still not 100% on how to capture 24F with a mac? Has anyone heard a time frame from FCP? __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

December 19th, 2005, 05:48 PM	#13
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	edius 3.61 3.61 is here FULL H1 support... :)

December 15th, 2005, 03:41 PM	#2
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	edius 3.6 ...update should be out Friday its free if you have 3 a bonus is you can use your storm card

December 15th, 2005, 03:57 PM	#4
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Actually, it appears this may be an option. There's a 30 day unlimited trial. Cool. Should this easily work with a DVStorm 2 card? Edit: It appears it requires an OHCI card. No big deal, I can get one cheaply, but I would prefer a simple solution with my G5. Anything else out there?

December 15th, 2005, 06:16 PM	#5
Randy Donato Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 138	You are right on the OHCI part...and I hate to bust the bubble but I am not sure the demo will be the 3.61 version which will allow full 24p support for HDV capture... I will put the powers to be on notice that the new Canon buyers would like to try edius and see how quick it can get done.BTW I don't think 3.61 will be up until next week. Sky are you getting an H1 and wadda you think about it?

December 15th, 2005, 06:25 PM	#6
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Hey that's great Randy! Appreciate you goin' to bat for us. Is the Kaku thing a mystery? I believe many of those clips are actual 24F, and I think he was using a Mac system, so how did he get the 24F stream to capture properly?

December 15th, 2005, 09:48 PM	#7
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	Randy is a big wig at the very friendly canopus forum, you guys are welcome to take a look and get more feedback when 3.6 hits the servers to see what users think about the h1 intergration...i have a feeling that 3.6 hits the server 2morrow, due to that fact that it was promised to me before the holidays and updates are always done on friday, they are also always done when i leave town so i have to wait a few days and just so happens i'm leaving town 2morrow Randy i'm getting a hvx, but as an edit studio it would be nice to have the ability to please...i shot about 1/2 hour of stuff using an H1 at NAB POST and a cannot wait to edit it, but alas with the camera i have no way to get on my system, so i may rent it for a day to see what the limits are... i hate working with hdv becouse of the deck issues we really need a pro deck that plays back every hdv format

December 16th, 2005, 01:15 AM	#8
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	ok nevermind my release time for 3.6, i just got word that i was wrong, it still might be a friday release just not this friday....

December 16th, 2005, 02:05 PM	#9
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Thanks again, Robert.

December 19th, 2005, 01:33 AM	#12
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Sorry, I missed this thread. I've been busy with my real work. I captured all of the XLH1 clips in all formats with beta version of LumiereHD provided by Frederic Haubrich. It was a special beta version that I believe, so you might have to ask Frederic for the specific questions. It was XLH1 connected to Power Mac Dual G5 via firewire, LumiereHD to capture, and saved as m2t files. No conversion what so ever.

December 19th, 2005, 06:43 PM	#14
Randy Donato Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 138	The demo version does not have it but hopefully soon...it is being worked on as we speak....

December 20th, 2005, 12:14 AM	#15
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Thanks Randy, looking forward to giving Edius a whirl. Interested to see where it bests FCP.