XL H1 and 35mm lenses at DVinfo.net

Roy Sallows · January 6th, 2006, 03:35 PM

I have been following the thread with intense interest, but I have questions. I checked out the Mini35. What a fantastic tool. But the cost is somewhat extreme, and I was wondering what tradeoffs would one encounter if you were to machine an adapter plate, similar in concept to the plates that allow, say, a Chev 350 to be mated to an early Cadillac transmission, which would use the Canon mount on one side, and the 35mm mount on the other? You would lose the auto features, of course, but, assume that you were willing to set the various parameters manually, would this kind of setup work? And, if so, what would you lose?

Mathieu Ghekiere · January 6th, 2006, 03:58 PM

I can't answer your question but I can give you another tip:

Here at the boards guys started making their own 35mm adapters (still do, btw) and one of them had a commercial succes with it.
It's now called the Micro35 adapter, or M2 (new version).
A complete set (I think with lense and case and stuff) costs like a tenth of the official Mini35...
Gives the same results, exept that your image is being recorded upsidedown, but you can just reverse that in your NLE.
Worth a try?

Roy Sallows · January 7th, 2006, 11:29 AM

Wow! What a huge gift to the community! Man, I am totally psyched. Got to get me one of those!

Joseph H. Moore · January 7th, 2006, 12:42 PM

What you describe doing will technically work, but you'll get none of the DOF advantages of the lens. In fact, the focal lengths will be off by many multiples because of the much smaller imaging area (1/3" versus 35 mm.)

Mathieu Ghekiere · January 7th, 2006, 01:45 PM

Btw, Roy, Joseph's comment was on your initial idea, not on the micro35 adapter.

Joseph H. Moore · January 7th, 2006, 02:06 PM

What Mathiew said. ;-)

The mini-35 relies on a relay lens to provide the 1/3" sensor with the 35mm lens' "projected" image.

Roy Sallows · January 7th, 2006, 07:53 PM

Ah, the subtleties... I thank you for the information, although I am not exactly sure that I understand the cautions fully. Enough that I know that an answer exists, that it is very affordable, and that my DP will be able to play nice and make pretty pictures.
I love this board!

January 6th, 2006, 03:35 PM	#1
Roy Sallows Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 57	XL H1 and 35mm lenses I have been following the thread with intense interest, but I have questions. I checked out the Mini35. What a fantastic tool. But the cost is somewhat extreme, and I was wondering what tradeoffs would one encounter if you were to machine an adapter plate, similar in concept to the plates that allow, say, a Chev 350 to be mated to an early Cadillac transmission, which would use the Canon mount on one side, and the 35mm mount on the other? You would lose the auto features, of course, but, assume that you were willing to set the various parameters manually, would this kind of setup work? And, if so, what would you lose?

January 6th, 2006, 03:58 PM	#2
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	I can't answer your question but I can give you another tip: Here at the boards guys started making their own 35mm adapters (still do, btw) and one of them had a commercial succes with it. It's now called the Micro35 adapter, or M2 (new version). A complete set (I think with lense and case and stuff) costs like a tenth of the official Mini35... Gives the same results, exept that your image is being recorded upsidedown, but you can just reverse that in your NLE. Worth a try? __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

January 7th, 2006, 11:29 AM	#3
Roy Sallows Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 57	Thank you! Wow! What a huge gift to the community! Man, I am totally psyched. Got to get me one of those!

January 7th, 2006, 01:45 PM	#5
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Btw, Roy, Joseph's comment was on your initial idea, not on the micro35 adapter. __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

January 7th, 2006, 12:42 PM	#4
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	What you describe doing will technically work, but you'll get none of the DOF advantages of the lens. In fact, the focal lengths will be off by many multiples because of the much smaller imaging area (1/3" versus 35 mm.)

January 7th, 2006, 02:06 PM	#6
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	What Mathiew said. ;-) The mini-35 relies on a relay lens to provide the 1/3" sensor with the 35mm lens' "projected" image.

January 7th, 2006, 07:53 PM	#7
Roy Sallows Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 57	Ah, the subtleties... I thank you for the information, although I am not exactly sure that I understand the cautions fully. Enough that I know that an answer exists, that it is very affordable, and that my DP will be able to play nice and make pretty pictures. I love this board!