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Barlow Elton · January 7th, 2006, 11:12 AM

Alright, I think I've already made a few mistakes with the camera, but here are some shots from last night. These were shot at -3db, mostly wide open.

www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton

Joseph H. Moore · January 7th, 2006, 12:44 PM

Many thanks! Downloading. What frame rate?

Martin Costa · January 7th, 2006, 12:59 PM

Your a brave man! Could of ended up in a double, camera and daughter soaking. Thanks for the clips.

Joseph H. Moore · January 7th, 2006, 01:04 PM

One thing's for sure ... the H1 is a real low light performer!

Barlow Elton · January 7th, 2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph H. Moore

Many thanks! Downloading. What frame rate?

It's all 24F, 1/48th, -3db, normal setting. Aperture was mostly wide open 1.6 to 2.0

Greg Boston · January 7th, 2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barlow Elton

It's all 24F, 1/48th, -3db, normal setting. Aperture was mostly wide open 1.6 to 2.0

Wow, -3db. I'm impressed. I'll have to try these settings on the XL2 and see what it yields. Ironically, it was the night footage of Vienna, Austria that I weighed heavily on in deciding to purchase the XL2.

Thanks for sharing Barlow. I only downloaded the one clip to keep your bandwidth usage in check.

-gb-

Barlow Elton · January 7th, 2006, 01:58 PM

Don't worry about it, Greg. Have at it. I mostly use the iDisk to share clips anyway. Apple won't let me go beyond 50GB a month I think, so it's not like I'm gonna get an extra bill once I've reached the limit. They will just freeze the bandwidth until the next month.

Barlow Elton · January 7th, 2006, 02:03 PM

btw, I'm sure many of you have already figured this, but I chose to shoot around the fountain to check for motion artifacts the sudden leaps of water might induce.

Seems like there's very little to complain about in that dept.

Joseph H. Moore · January 7th, 2006, 02:17 PM

They do look good. And a good indicator of performance for indie filmmaking (my personal interest.)

A better overall "torture test" would be a sporting event. Hockey can be a real killer, but anything that requires camera movement, high shutter speeds, and moving subject matter will quickly reveal deinterlacing issues.

Steven Thomas · January 7th, 2006, 02:36 PM

Dang Barlow!

Under those conditions, I can't believe how clean the image looks.
It even holds great resolution despite of the light.

I wonder how well it would of held up to 0dB?

Well, I might need to reconsider the H1!

You went out of your way to upload these files, thanks a lot man.

If there's more, please let us know, especially from those on the fence.

The HVX concept is great, but in the end, it's all about picture quality!

thxs, Steve

Joseph H. Moore · January 7th, 2006, 02:41 PM

Amen. The images from this camera compared to the footage from the HVX is very revealing.

Barlow Elton · January 7th, 2006, 08:48 PM

I took the clips down because I was told that others couldn't access the page. I'm trying to see if I caught Apple's attention with too much bandwidth guzzling.

Barlow Elton · January 7th, 2006, 11:01 PM

Seems to be ok now. I'll leave them up another day or two.

Barlow Elton · January 8th, 2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

Dang Barlow!

Under those conditions, I can't believe how clean the image looks.
It even holds great resolution despite of the light.

I wonder how well it would of held up to 0dB?

It might've looked much better had I more experience with this camera.
Playing with the master pedestal and sharpness levels might've made it silky smooth. Still, I'm very happy with how it performed right out of the box! And this is all crammed down to the absurd compression ratio of HDV.

Shannon Rawls · January 8th, 2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barlow Elton

this is all crammed down to the absurd compression ratio of HDV.

Well.....

If it looks outstanding.....

Is it really absurd?

Seems to me that it completed it's mission......if you know what I mean?

- ShannonRawls.com

January 7th, 2006, 11:12 AM	#1
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Fresh Meat... Alright, I think I've already made a few mistakes with the camera, but here are some shots from last night. These were shot at -3db, mostly wide open. www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton

January 7th, 2006, 12:44 PM	#2
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	Many thanks! Downloading. What frame rate?

January 7th, 2006, 12:59 PM	#3
Martin Costa Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 76 Images: 2	Your a brave man! Could of ended up in a double, camera and daughter soaking. Thanks for the clips.

January 7th, 2006, 01:04 PM	#4
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	One thing's for sure ... the H1 is a real low light performer!

January 7th, 2006, 01:58 PM	#7
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Don't worry about it, Greg. Have at it. I mostly use the iDisk to share clips anyway. Apple won't let me go beyond 50GB a month I think, so it's not like I'm gonna get an extra bill once I've reached the limit. They will just freeze the bandwidth until the next month.

January 7th, 2006, 02:03 PM	#8
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	btw, I'm sure many of you have already figured this, but I chose to shoot around the fountain to check for motion artifacts the sudden leaps of water might induce. Seems like there's very little to complain about in that dept.

January 7th, 2006, 02:17 PM	#9
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	They do look good. And a good indicator of performance for indie filmmaking (my personal interest.) A better overall "torture test" would be a sporting event. Hockey can be a real killer, but anything that requires camera movement, high shutter speeds, and moving subject matter will quickly reveal deinterlacing issues.

January 7th, 2006, 02:36 PM	#10
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Dang Barlow! Under those conditions, I can't believe how clean the image looks. It even holds great resolution despite of the light. I wonder how well it would of held up to 0dB? Well, I might need to reconsider the H1! You went out of your way to upload these files, thanks a lot man. If there's more, please let us know, especially from those on the fence. The HVX concept is great, but in the end, it's all about picture quality! thxs, Steve

January 7th, 2006, 02:41 PM	#11
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	Amen. The images from this camera compared to the footage from the HVX is very revealing.

January 7th, 2006, 08:48 PM	#12
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	I took the clips down because I was told that others couldn't access the page. I'm trying to see if I caught Apple's attention with too much bandwidth guzzling.

January 7th, 2006, 11:01 PM	#13
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Seems to be ok now. I'll leave them up another day or two.