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Explanation for Newbie
As a new owner of an XH A1 I appreciate the fact that there are so many presets already setup for download. However, I wish to learn more about how each preset affects the image appearance and quality.
I understand the basics about gamma, color gain, black stretch and such, but was wondering if there is an online source that explains each setting in a bit more detail . . . until I get up to speed. |
Here is one "White Paper" for the XL H1.
Note that the XH A1 uses different values, such as -9 to +9, however the principles are the same: http://downloads.canon.com/cpr/softw...ageControl.pdf Here is another way to access more info on the XL H1: http://www.usa.canon.com/app/html/XL..._library.shtml |
Dan,
Thanks for politely kicking me over in another forum, I somehow never picked up there actually existed one for the A1, and my apologies for not being clear on model: XH A1. Still learned alot here though and hopefully one day I'll be able to contribute, if not just a little. |
Dear Henrik,
No problem at all, that is why we are here. The XH A1/XH G1 Custom Presets are 40 bytes long while the original XL H1 presets are 39 bytes long. |
Ahh, that could be why I got 'DATA ERR' from downloading XL H1
presets.. Anyhow, seem I already surfed the A1 forum before without knowing, life is most wonderful when you are abit confused even for a Newbee like me. Thanks again for your help. |
Dan,
All done and dusted. Thanks alot your help. |
Dear Henrik,
You are most welcome. I am happy it is now working for you. |
VIVID RGB to XLHI
Looking for procedure for importing the VIVID RGB preset on the XHA1 to the XLH1. Not sure what the steps are and now to use it. I have downloaded the XLH1 Editor for MAC. Do I just put the little card from the XHAI in my reader, then click on open Preset, then remove the card, and inset the XLHI card and go save preset? Is it as simple as that?
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Sorry, but the XH A1 Custom Presets are different than the XL H1 Custom Presets.
You can not just take an XH A1 Custom Preset and load them into the XL H1. |
For some guidance, see my posts in this thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=81457 ...but you'll have to work backwards from the steps I took there. |
VIVID RGB to XLHI
Well, I read that page and realized I might be getting in over my depth! :) Can I not take the XLH1 editor that I downloaded, load in the VIVID RGB from the preset I have on the XHA1 card and then remove the card and insert the card from the XLHI and click save on the My preset sidee of the application. Doesn't this application do the math that you outline in your page...or do you have any idea what the preset settings might be for achieving the VIVID RGB look on the XLH1? I am just after one preset at the moment. I just got my XLHI following the recent price drop. I have not yet tried the original XLH1 presets you have on this site. Do any of them look close to VIVID RGB. I might be happy with something that is close..
Tim |
Converting presets
Hi Tim,
if you have downloaded the XLH1 Editor from my website it is possible to open a preset from the XH A1 (it shows a messages that it will convert the preset). It will be roughly converted then to a XLH1 preset (the math is similar to what i have read one year ago in this forum about the different preset schemes, though tweaking could be still necessary). If you save it then it will be saved as a XLH1 preset. Felix |
Wow, that's great Felix! I had no idea about that capability. Thanks for clarifying this -- much appreciated,
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ViviD RGB to XLHI
Well, I thought this might just be the case...any idea how close the very popular VIVID RGB might be?
Tim |
viviD RGB to XLHI
I tried this but it doesn't show up in the list as preset30.cpf
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the names of the presets must be from PRESET01.CPF till PRESET20.CPF Felix |
VIVID RGB for XLH!
What if any existing preset is closest to the Vivid RGB available for the XL1 H1. I am now out in the field and can no longer edit my presets. I do have the presets from Chris's list loaded onto disk....but which one to use...The camera default is pretty bland when viewed on a portable Ikan LCD which I have hooked up via an S-video cable.
Tim |
Does anyone know of some "safe" settings to use when recording on the XH-A1 if you want to apply a filmic look in post?
By "safe" I mean minimising the possibility of clipping or colour aberrations. And recording the video data in such a way that all the data needed for generating the filmic look in post is recorded. |
Steven Dempsey has a preset that he designed around using the Letus Extreme / Ultimate - very flat image with neutral color tone that is designed to be manipulated in post.
I don't recall the name of it off my head though - just have it stored. mike |
It's called VIVID RGB. Just search for it.
By the way, this is the Canon XL preset thread. Wrong forum for Canon XH. |
Thanks Chris I'll search for that.
Sorry about posting in the wrong forum. I think my dyslexia is rearing its ugly head again. |
Dear Stuart,
Go to post 78 in the following link: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/canon-xh-...ry-copy-6.html |
Thanks Dan!
That's just what I was looking for :) Excellente! |
Procedure for Copying Custom Presets
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Dan, Could you please describe the standard computer procedures that are required to create and copy the Custom Presets to the PRESET folder. (# 10 & #11 in your 14 step procedure). I want to make sure I do this correctly. Thanks |
I Have made a movie on Custom Presets. In this movie you can see the difference between 18 Custom Presets for the Canon XL-H1. Yo can find the movie at :Canon XL-H1 Custom Presets Movie on Vimeo
Freddie |
Custom Presets
Thanks so much for your help.
Denny |
You are most welcome.
Freddie. |
Freddie,
Could you tell me please when you recorded all your clips for each pre-set did you use a manual white balance, auto or bright sunlight 5,600k setting? Regards Mick |
The setting was 5,600k
Freddie |
Many thanks for that
Mick |
Panavision preset for xh a1
Can someone please be so kind of pointing me to the panavison preset ? I canīt find it. Thanks.
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On the first page of this thread |
Updated Presets?
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Data err
Hey all,
Just got my XH A1S today--I'm stoked. I loaded all 18 presets onto the Canon-provided SD card into a PRESETS folder. The camera shows "DATA ERR" for 1-7, but 8-18 are fine. Any ideas? |
Presets
The camera's quite sensitive to anything out of the ordinary on the SD card, I think that includes the archive and read only attributes.
If it helps, there's a tasty video here that shows 18 presets in action : :) |
HVX200 preset?
I have an HVX200 preset I created for my XHA1. Since the settings adjustments are different and the presets are incompatible I cant use it with my newly purchased XLH1. The way I set up the HVX preset was on multi-camera shoot. The production company I mainly freelance for has an HVX and we had it and my XHA1 hooked up to a calibrate-able production monitor. We aimed both cameras at the same scene and tweaked settings while swapping back an fourth between the two cameras on the monitor until they reasonably matched. It worked out pretty well. I can probably do the same thing with my boss's HVX at the office on a test pattern. Is this a good method for creating a preset? Does anyone know if there is an HVX200 setting around for download for the XLH1?
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Stephen,
According to the Excel Spreadsheets for each camera's presets a general rule for the color settings is that the XH A1 is 4x's higher than the XL H1. As an example: XH Custom Preset PANALOOK NAME CINE2 GAMMA LOW KNEE MIDDLE BLACK -7 MASTER PED. -1 SETUP LEVEL 1 SHARPNESS MIDDLE H DTL FREQ 0 DTL HV BAL 0 CORING OFF NR OFF NR2 CINE2 COLOR MAT. 4 COLOR GAIN 0 COLOR PHASE 8 R GAIN 8 G GAIN 12 B GAIN 0 RG MATRIX 0 RB MATRIX 0 GR MATRIX 0 GB MATRIX 0 BR MATRIX 0 BG MATRIX XLH1 Custom Preset PANALOOK NAME CINE2 GAMMA LOW KNEE MIDDLE BLACK -7 MASTER PED. -1 SETUP LEVEL 1 SHARPNESS MIDDLE H DTL FREQ 0 DTL HV BAL 0 CORING OFF NR OFF NR2 CINE2 COLOR MAT. 1 COLOR GAIN 0 COLOR PHASE 2 R GAIN 2 G GAIN 3 B GAIN 0 RG MATRIX 0 RB MATRIX 0 GR MATRIX 0 GB MATRIX 0 BR MATRIX 0 BG MATRIX You can download the Excel Spreadsheets to compare them yourself. XH A1 here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xh...rary-copy.html It's the first attached file in the first post. XL H1 here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xl...d-library.html Same deal. OpenOffice.org - The Free and Open Productivity Suite is a free program that'll allow you to view these. Could you please post your HVX200 preset for the XH A1? Did you use the Cinelike D gamma & Cine-like color matrix on the HVX? Thanks. |
Data Error
Hi,
so I downloaded all the Custom Preset files, which I would like to thank for. But the first 7 01-07 seem to have some kind of a issue. When I try access the files I receive a Data Error. Now the rest work fine! Any advice? Thanks |
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