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Annika Olsen November 30th, 2006 09:04 AM

6x Wide Angle Shipping
 
Finally Canon has shipped me my (2) wide angle lenses. I'll provide some feedback shortly.

Kyle Lapp November 30th, 2006 10:07 AM

Now How Can I Get One, or Two?
 
Are you in the know, or did you have them pre ordered?

Tony Davies-Patrick November 30th, 2006 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annika Olsen
Finally Canon has shipped me my (2) wide angle lenses. I'll provide some feedback shortly.

I'm looking forward to reading your Feedback on the new wide angle lens. Enjoy your new toys!

Annika Olsen November 30th, 2006 12:15 PM

Pre order
 
I preordered them about 3-weeks ago and received the shipping tracking number last night. I'll post some info as soon as they are in my hands.

Jonas Nystrom December 1st, 2006 12:38 PM

I've also received my tracking number! Halelujah!

Ernest Allen December 1st, 2006 07:19 PM

B & H's web page now says that the 6x XL lens is in stock!

Barry Gregg December 2nd, 2006 03:13 PM

Here is a link to the B&H listing for the 6x. Where is that rich uncle when you need a great Christmas gift?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

Zack Vohaska December 3rd, 2006 12:55 AM

When can we be expect the XL-H1 body only kit to start shipping? :]

Jonas Nystrom December 4th, 2006 07:26 AM

OK... I've got it in my hand! Reports and comments later.

Johan Forssblad December 4th, 2006 10:08 AM

Jonas, did you get the new firmware on an SD card with the lens? Or do we dumb "swedes" still need to see the authorised Canon repair center to do the installation? Hope your new lens is fine! /Johan

Jonas Nystrom December 4th, 2006 12:09 PM

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Here it is (and firmvare is included even in Sweden). And here is my lovely doughter telling me to make dinner instead of playing around with that stupid toy! I will post some more footage later tonight!

Tony Davies-Patrick December 4th, 2006 12:47 PM

...Us boys do love our toys...

Jonas Nystrom December 4th, 2006 02:52 PM

ironing board Res chart
 
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Here is my first test on a res chart. I had to run home from my office to see the new 6x zoom. So I printed out a a res-chart and I had our ironing board as tripod. As you know the EVF on the XL H1 is not the best, so had a bit on the wall as well... But as you can see, nice resolution at the corners. A little bit of CA (purple fringe), but noticable less then the 20x lens (or what do you say?). When just playing around, I get feel that the lens has a really nice low barrel distortion.

PS. I had to fold the test chart, you may see a slight "bend" at the center. DS.

Pete Bauer December 4th, 2006 06:20 PM

Jonas, thanks for posting. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you do these again with a couple of adjustments:
- verify that a back focus has been done on the lens
- frame using on-screen monitor (eg capture window) so it isn't overscanned
- label the picture with the lens used or put the lens used somewhere in the file name

Again, thanks for taking the time -- lots of people will be very interested in this lens!

Will Griffith December 5th, 2006 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack Vohaska
When can we be expect the XL-H1 body only kit to start shipping? :]

It already is (at least in the USA). I received ours with a 6X Monday.

Jonas Nystrom December 5th, 2006 10:36 AM

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OK. Here it is. I've done the back focus, pictures is frame grabs.

Barrel distorion; Chart and some shots done at my studio.

Resolution Charts; at full wide and full tele.

Depth of field; with help from my assistent Linda, one at full wide and one at full tele (shot with Schneider Black Frost 1/2).

Jonas Nystrom December 5th, 2006 10:47 AM

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And here is one more on barrel distortion and one pic on the 6X mounted on the H1 with rod system. For gear ring (follow focus) we will need a gear ring with 34 cm circumference.

Tony Davies-Patrick December 5th, 2006 02:33 PM

Thanks for the shots and info, Jonas. If you could possibly do a small selection of test photos at outdoor locations sometime in the future, it would also provide much-needed added information on this interesting lens.

Jonas Nystrom December 6th, 2006 07:26 AM

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Some exteriors shot with the new wide (stills). All shot at full wide. Have a look at the low barrel distortion, extreme long DOF and the angles.

I love the manual iris ring!

Will Griffith December 6th, 2006 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas Nystrom
I love the manual iris ring!

I think i have a defective lens. When I have it in Manual mode
and push exposure lock like it says to do the iris ring still does
nothing. Am I missing something?

thanks

Marty Hudzik December 6th, 2006 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Griffith
I think i have a defective lens. When I have it in Manual mode
and push exposure lock like it says to do the iris ring still does
nothing. Am I missing something?

thanks


I donot have lens but I have ask if you flashed the bios on your camera when you got the lens? I do not think the iris ring will work unless you do this first.

Good Luck. I sure hope it is something like this and not a defect.

Jonas Nystrom December 6th, 2006 08:41 AM

Exactly, you must update your camera firmware (included).

Will Griffith December 6th, 2006 08:47 AM

Hmmmmm....
It is already at 1.0.3.0 (new body only kit).

I will email Canon and see what hey say.

thanks

Will Griffith December 6th, 2006 09:06 AM

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BTW....

Here is an uncompressed 10bit 1080p frame grab w/6x lens.

I like this camera. :) I will post a :60 spot we shot on monday
sometime this week.

Tony Davies-Patrick December 6th, 2006 09:16 AM

Thanks for the exteriors Jonas.

There seems to be slight colour fringing/chromatic aberrations in places, although probably not so noticeable in a moving image.

Can you remember the f/stop settings for each of the exterior shots shown?

It would be nice to view a side-by-side test between the XL 3XSD and 6XHD lenses to see how much of an improvement has been made with new lens - in both perfomance and handling.

Jonas Nystrom December 6th, 2006 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Davies-Patrick
Thanks for the exteriors Jonas.

There seems to be slight colour fringing/chromatic aberrations in places, although probably not so noticeable in a moving image.

Can you remember the f/stop settings for each of the exterior shots shown?

I think the fringing is far less then in the 20x lens!

Sorry, I did the exteriors in a rush, and did not make notes of the f-stops!

Jonas Nystrom December 6th, 2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Griffith
Hmmmmm....
It is already at 1.0.3.0 (new body only kit).

I will email Canon and see what hey say.

thanks

And it should be 1.0.4.0!

John Richard December 6th, 2006 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Griffith
Hmmmmm....
It is already at 1.0.3.0 (new body only kit).

I will email Canon and see what hey say.

thanks

Will, as posted earlier, the 6X ships with an SD Card with the firmware upgrade needed for it to communicate with camera. Be careful you don't throw it away with packaging. Don't have our 6X yet (coming from Zotz Digital) - could someone describe the packaging of the SD card so others don't lose it.

Will Griffith December 6th, 2006 09:59 AM

Found it. :) didn't see it when I first opened the box.

That's what happens when you can't wait to play with a new toy.

thanks

Will Griffith December 6th, 2006 10:04 AM

It's easy to miss...especially if you are tossing things out quickly to get to the lens :)

It is with a 3" by 4" folded piece of paper in a plastic sleeve.

-will

Will Griffith December 6th, 2006 10:07 AM

It's easy to miss...especially if you are tossing things out quickly to get to the lens :)

It is with a 3" by 4" folded piece of paper in a plastic sleeve.

Tony Davies-Patrick December 6th, 2006 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas Nystrom
I think the fringing is far less then in the 20x lens!

...

Yes, I agree entirely...although the main problem of fringing with the 20X lenses is at the extreme telephoto end.

Jonas Nystrom December 6th, 2006 02:50 PM

I had the 6X zoom for two days, and I think will have it mounted on my XL H1 permanently! I think Canon have done a really nice work here.

Patricia Lamm December 6th, 2006 03:32 PM

What size (UV) filter is needed for the 6x? I can't seem to find this information in the usual places...

Patricia Lamm December 6th, 2006 03:39 PM

Sorry, just found it: 82mm

Jonas Nystrom December 6th, 2006 06:28 PM

I think you will need "slim" screw in filters to avoid vignetting.

Jon Bickford December 7th, 2006 12:32 AM

SOOOO much nicer than the 3x SD lens,

Jonas, were those barrel distortion examples at the widest setting? it's definetely there but not bad at all, looks pretty similar to some of the images i've gotten with the 20x at full wide.

Jonas Nystrom December 7th, 2006 01:18 AM

Yes, on the widest. It,s noticable but not annoying!

Peter Greenfield December 7th, 2006 02:48 AM

Hi All, I am new to this group, and new to film making but I am having a go and loving it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Davies-Patrick
Can you remember the f/stop settings for each of the exterior shots shown?

If you look at the meta info in the files you will see the f/stops.

The photo of Jonas's doughter was shot at a f-stop of 1.6 and Focal Lenght of 3.4mm

--
Peter Greenfield

Jonas Nystrom December 7th, 2006 04:09 AM

OK, thank you (more then I know!)


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