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Yang Wen · June 16th, 2003, 09:39 AM

is anyone using the Coking Bellows Hood with the P series filter holder? I'd like to hear how durable this hood is.

thanks

Zac Stein · June 16th, 2003, 10:11 AM

I have the A hood for my still camera, i believe it is the A hood anyways. It has lasted many bashings and much usage.

The only think annoying it is very very very easy to tounch and get fingerprints all over the filters when taking them out or putting them in.

Zac

Yang Wen · June 16th, 2003, 10:31 AM

Im curious as to what material is the bellow made of? I heard that it's some sort of paper material so does that hold shape easily? meanining once you set a length, does it have a tendency to shrink back?

Also, does the bellow have some sort of weather resistant coating?

Also, I suspect the filters simple drop-in into the holder, so does that mean it will easily slide out or shift around if the camera is titled too much?

thanks

Chris Hurd · June 16th, 2003, 10:47 AM

Re: fingerprints, get some cheap white cotton gloves, find them at any photo store, always have a pair in your gear bag.

Zac Stein · June 16th, 2003, 10:54 AM

Chris yeah got that, it is not the point of wiping them off, it is the fact it is almost impossible to not get them on it :(

Zac

Ohh now i actually read gloves instead of cloth, heheh got ya, got them too.

Hhehe

Just saying it is a bit of a fault in the design.

Billy Yeung · June 16th, 2003, 09:50 PM

How about the Hass Pro shade ? can it be attached on XL1S ?

Ned Cordery · June 25th, 2003, 05:00 PM

I use the Lee Hood with P series Cokin filters on an XL1s. This works well and shows no signs of deterioration. The bellows appear to be made of a thin impregnated cloth. Have to be careful that the bellows are not in shot at the wide end of the lens.

Ned Cordery

Bryan Beasleigh · June 27th, 2003, 11:52 PM

Hi Tech make a metal filter holder with a rotating stage for P size filters. Hitech and Lee make various lens shades and belloes for the P. There is always the 100mm square (4x4") Lee and Hitech as well. The hoods and bellows both companies make are top quality. Cokin seems to be limited to cheap plastic.

http://www.formatt.co.uk/hitech/hardware.asp
http://www.2filter.com/prices/products/hitech8.html

http://www.leefiltersusa.com/PDFs/Camera/CamPdfIndex.html#
For the Lee video Hoods and the cokin hoods ,go to the very bottom of the menu page and click on "English" under "Video Products Brochure"

The shortfall of these holders is that they are open at the back where the filter slots are located.

With lee and hightech holders both trays rotate together as well.

Most of the mounts are threaded adapters screwed onto the end of your lens.

If you go with the 100mm matteboxes you can buy adapter frames from Lee so the P sixe filters will fit in the 100mm tray.

A British outfiT TLS, markets a Kestrel and a Lee KestrelMatte Box. This unit can be configured for Lee filters only (the Lee Kestrel) and it will only hold 2mm or 1.5mm resin filters that are 100mm (4") wide and up to 150mm (6") long. Two fixed and one rotating.

or

The TLS Kestrel will hold one fixed and one rotating 100mm (4") filter 4-6" long at any width up to 4mm.

The Kestrel has both a hard shade with french flag and light flap over the filter stages and a self supporting bellows. The shade and bellows simply clip on.

The filter holder attaches by either a screw on or clampon lens mount. I prefer the clamp mount for wide angle lenses.

TLS sell their stuff online .
http://www.truelens.co.uk/kestrel.htm
The basic unit is 250 GBP (1(pound stirling) GBP=1.6 UD$ approx)the bellows is 65 GBP and the hard shade is 75 GBP .

Another outfit has this unit for $450. There package includes either bellows or hard shade, a screw or clamp adapter and the filter holder. You can buy a bellows or hardshade for an extra $80 US. For $530 US plus $30 shipping you get both the hard shade and bellows.
http://movie-house.com/DV/Pages/Kestrel.htm

The absolute best bag for the buck for a really decent mattebox is the cavision 3x3. For $200 US you can buy a rubber shaded matt box. The trays and the tray housing are aluminum and the back mount is plastic.The unit is 85mm clamp on. For smaller lens barrel diameters a $5 C ring is needed. For $250 US you can get a mattebox with an aluminum back mount. I've seen and played with this unit and it's great. Catherine the manager at cavision seems to think that P filters could be slotted into the 3x3 mattebox(without the tray)

It's limit is a .65 wide Angle adapter. Any wider and you will vignette.

Any questions feel free to email me.

June 16th, 2003, 09:39 AM	#1
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Cokin bellows hood is anyone using the Coking Bellows Hood with the P series filter holder? I'd like to hear how durable this hood is. thanks

June 16th, 2003, 10:47 AM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Re: fingerprints, get some cheap white cotton gloves, find them at any photo store, always have a pair in your gear bag. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 16th, 2003, 10:11 AM	#2
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	I have the A hood for my still camera, i believe it is the A hood anyways. It has lasted many bashings and much usage. The only think annoying it is very very very easy to tounch and get fingerprints all over the filters when taking them out or putting them in. Zac

June 16th, 2003, 10:31 AM	#3
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Im curious as to what material is the bellow made of? I heard that it's some sort of paper material so does that hold shape easily? meanining once you set a length, does it have a tendency to shrink back? Also, does the bellow have some sort of weather resistant coating? Also, I suspect the filters simple drop-in into the holder, so does that mean it will easily slide out or shift around if the camera is titled too much? thanks

June 16th, 2003, 10:54 AM	#5
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Chris yeah got that, it is not the point of wiping them off, it is the fact it is almost impossible to not get them on it :( Zac Ohh now i actually read gloves instead of cloth, heheh got ya, got them too. Hhehe Just saying it is a bit of a fault in the design.

June 16th, 2003, 09:50 PM	#6
Billy Yeung New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hong Kong SAR Posts: 9	How about the Hass Pro shade ? can it be attached on XL1S ?

June 25th, 2003, 05:00 PM	#7
Ned Cordery New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dammeron Valley, UT Posts: 15	I use the Lee Hood with P series Cokin filters on an XL1s. This works well and shows no signs of deterioration. The bellows appear to be made of a thin impregnated cloth. Have to be careful that the bellows are not in shot at the wide end of the lens. Ned Cordery

June 27th, 2003, 11:52 PM	#8
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Hi Tech make a metal filter holder with a rotating stage for P size filters. Hitech and Lee make various lens shades and belloes for the P. There is always the 100mm square (4x4") Lee and Hitech as well. The hoods and bellows both companies make are top quality. Cokin seems to be limited to cheap plastic. http://www.formatt.co.uk/hitech/hardware.asp http://www.2filter.com/prices/products/hitech8.html http://www.leefiltersusa.com/PDFs/Camera/CamPdfIndex.html# For the Lee video Hoods and the cokin hoods ,go to the very bottom of the menu page and click on "English" under "Video Products Brochure" The shortfall of these holders is that they are open at the back where the filter slots are located. With lee and hightech holders both trays rotate together as well. Most of the mounts are threaded adapters screwed onto the end of your lens. If you go with the 100mm matteboxes you can buy adapter frames from Lee so the P sixe filters will fit in the 100mm tray. A British outfiT TLS, markets a Kestrel and a Lee KestrelMatte Box. This unit can be configured for Lee filters only (the Lee Kestrel) and it will only hold 2mm or 1.5mm resin filters that are 100mm (4") wide and up to 150mm (6") long. Two fixed and one rotating. or The TLS Kestrel will hold one fixed and one rotating 100mm (4") filter 4-6" long at any width up to 4mm. The Kestrel has both a hard shade with french flag and light flap over the filter stages and a self supporting bellows. The shade and bellows simply clip on. The filter holder attaches by either a screw on or clampon lens mount. I prefer the clamp mount for wide angle lenses. TLS sell their stuff online . http://www.truelens.co.uk/kestrel.htm The basic unit is 250 GBP (1(pound stirling) GBP=1.6 UD$ approx)the bellows is 65 GBP and the hard shade is 75 GBP . Another outfit has this unit for $450. There package includes either bellows or hard shade, a screw or clamp adapter and the filter holder. You can buy a bellows or hardshade for an extra $80 US. For $530 US plus $30 shipping you get both the hard shade and bellows. http://movie-house.com/DV/Pages/Kestrel.htm The absolute best bag for the buck for a really decent mattebox is the cavision 3x3. For $200 US you can buy a rubber shaded matt box. The trays and the tray housing are aluminum and the back mount is plastic.The unit is 85mm clamp on. For smaller lens barrel diameters a $5 C ring is needed. For $250 US you can get a mattebox with an aluminum back mount. I've seen and played with this unit and it's great. Catherine the manager at cavision seems to think that P filters could be slotted into the 3x3 mattebox(without the tray) It's limit is a .65 wide Angle adapter. Any wider and you will vignette. Any questions feel free to email me.