anyway to setup XL1 for 16bit on Audio 2? at DVinfo.net

Adam Burtle · February 26th, 2004, 05:32 PM

I wanted to record in 16 bit audio, with 2 input sources through a beachtek. The best was i see to do this is to run one mic on channel R, and one mic on channel L, and dupe each channel in post to make them each "Stereo." Problem is, i can't use Audio 1, because the RCA inputs on the back conflict with my shoulder mount of choice.

Anyway to set it up in the VCR Setup menu for audio, so that it says,

Audio Mode: 16 Bit
Audio 1 IN: ---
Audio 2 IN: LINE

???

Basically, i want 16 bit audio, and i want to be able to pull it straight off of the tape with vegas, i dont want to mess with 12 bit and making scenalyzer work right now.

Thanks.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · February 26th, 2004, 07:16 PM

What is this shoulder mount that block the RCA plugs? You couldn't use right angles RCA cables ?

If not, I doubt that you can set the channel 2 to 16 bits.

But FWIW, I never been able to tell the difference between a clip in 16 bits and another in 12 bits. You can?

Don Palomaki · February 26th, 2004, 08:44 PM

Connect the Beachtek to the XL1's mic input (the stereo mini-phone jack) - it also feeds the Audio1 channels. Just be sure that the beachtek output is mic level. and set the audio switches to match.

Mark A. Foley · February 27th, 2004, 06:25 AM

hmmm Don...never thought of configuring my beachtek that way...thanks!

Adam Burtle · February 27th, 2004, 11:37 AM

Thanks don, i may try to wrangle it that way.

Jean.. i'd thought of right angled plugs, but clearance will still be tight. I picked up a couple 3/8ths 24pitch bolts last night, to cut apart and weld together today to make an extender for the gimbal on my mount do the plugs wont be an issue..

I'm using a varizoom SP7 shoulder mount.. seen here..

http://www.adamgeek.com/sp7.jpg

If the bolts i weld together to extend the gimbal dont do the trick, i'll try Don's minijack idea.

Don Palomaki · February 27th, 2004, 06:36 PM

Would threaded rod and cap nuts from Home Depot, etc. work as an alternaive to welding bolts?

Adam Burtle · March 3rd, 2004, 02:15 AM

yes, they would.. but home depot had none in the pitch and thead i needed.

i ended up using a MD recorder for the wireless audio, and avoided the whole RCA problem all together.

decent temporary fix, i guess.. untill i can find time to weld and cut heh

Don Palomaki · March 3rd, 2004, 05:28 AM

Some serious hobby shops might carry threaded rod as well. Maybe google on the concept to find a specialty mail order shop.

February 26th, 2004, 05:32 PM	#1
Adam Burtle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 173	anyway to setup XL1 for 16bit on Audio 2? I wanted to record in 16 bit audio, with 2 input sources through a beachtek. The best was i see to do this is to run one mic on channel R, and one mic on channel L, and dupe each channel in post to make them each "Stereo." Problem is, i can't use Audio 1, because the RCA inputs on the back conflict with my shoulder mount of choice. Anyway to set it up in the VCR Setup menu for audio, so that it says, Audio Mode: 16 Bit Audio 1 IN: --- Audio 2 IN: LINE ??? Basically, i want 16 bit audio, and i want to be able to pull it straight off of the tape with vegas, i dont want to mess with 12 bit and making scenalyzer work right now. Thanks.

February 26th, 2004, 07:16 PM	#2
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	What is this shoulder mount that block the RCA plugs? You couldn't use right angles RCA cables ? If not, I doubt that you can set the channel 2 to 16 bits. But FWIW, I never been able to tell the difference between a clip in 16 bits and another in 12 bits. You can? __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

February 26th, 2004, 08:44 PM	#3
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	Connect the Beachtek to the XL1's mic input (the stereo mini-phone jack) - it also feeds the Audio1 channels. Just be sure that the beachtek output is mic level. and set the audio switches to match. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

February 27th, 2004, 06:36 PM	#6
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	Would threaded rod and cap nuts from Home Depot, etc. work as an alternaive to welding bolts? __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

March 3rd, 2004, 05:28 AM	#8
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	Some serious hobby shops might carry threaded rod as well. Maybe google on the concept to find a specialty mail order shop. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

February 27th, 2004, 06:25 AM	#4
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	hmmm Don...never thought of configuring my beachtek that way...thanks!

February 27th, 2004, 11:37 AM	#5
Adam Burtle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 173	Thanks don, i may try to wrangle it that way. Jean.. i'd thought of right angled plugs, but clearance will still be tight. I picked up a couple 3/8ths 24pitch bolts last night, to cut apart and weld together today to make an extender for the gimbal on my mount do the plugs wont be an issue.. I'm using a varizoom SP7 shoulder mount.. seen here.. http://www.adamgeek.com/sp7.jpg If the bolts i weld together to extend the gimbal dont do the trick, i'll try Don's minijack idea.

March 3rd, 2004, 02:15 AM	#7
Adam Burtle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 173	yes, they would.. but home depot had none in the pitch and thead i needed. i ended up using a MD recorder for the wireless audio, and avoided the whole RCA problem all together. decent temporary fix, i guess.. untill i can find time to weld and cut heh