XL1s - a mistake?

Cory Moorehead · January 2nd, 2005, 10:18 AM

Tarnation can only be seen in small theatres right now but they got a deal with Wellspring Media and it is going nationwide sometime before next October.

Mathieu Ghekiere · January 2nd, 2005, 12:11 PM

Thanks

Waldemar Winkler · January 5th, 2005, 05:43 PM

Well, I just bought an XL1-s for $2600US. Included case, MA-200 XLR mic adapter, Dual battery charger, and other misc. things. Under 12 hours use. (Doubt that.) Where $2600 US in UK pounds? Just saw an adv. on E-Bay for a PAL XL1-s for $800 US (do a search in E-BAY for "XL1-s". It should show up at the bottom of the list. Personally, I think it may well be a scam of some sort. At a 2-1 exchange, $800 US seems to be way below the average.

I was close to purchasing the XL2 but had big concerns regarding how High Definition would impact the US market...and how quickly it would take hold. Finding an XL1-s at a reasonable price, which I was hoping would be around $2000 US, seemed like a cost effective way to resolve my need for an additional camera at reduced risk while I took the "wait and see" attitude with HD. Also, there was a post on DVinfo somewhere recently from a Croatian (or was it Ukranian? We Americans have a tendency to be geography-challenged at times. Probably has a lot to do with our self-centered nature) videographer who was most upset with the apparent lack of color saturation with the XL2. Responders to that post thought that the difference had to do with default saturation of color within the camera. If so, the XL1-s I just bought should come close to that of my GL1. I certainly hope so.

Please pardon my wandering. In terms of light sensitivity, if you primarily find yourself shooting in low light conditions, the SONY products (VX 2100, PD 150/170) all beat the competition. Canon typicaly introduces now products after all other have placed their chips on the table, as it were. SONY always seem to be the first to show their hand. Like a physicianb's anti-bacterial prescription (a shotgun blast to kill anything in the path), SONY products tend to work everywhere to some degree, while the Canon product have a refinement that is appreciated with time and attention.

Oh my!. Time flies, and it is my turn to cook dinner. time to leave this post.

Giroud Francois · January 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM

So basically said, if it is really a XL1 you need , you can have it for a lot cheaper thean the price you mentionned.
If it is just a good camera you need for the mentionned price, you can get a better than an XL1.

Mathieu Ghekiere · January 8th, 2005, 01:55 PM

Good luck, Waldemar, with the cam!

By the way, I like your name... Waldemar...
Okay, I'll leave now ;-)

January 2nd, 2005, 10:18 AM	#16
Cory Moorehead Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 148	Tarnation can only be seen in small theatres right now but they got a deal with Wellspring Media and it is going nationwide sometime before next October. __________________ Because im that...damn...good.

January 5th, 2005, 05:43 PM	#18
Waldemar Winkler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Durango, Colorado, USA Posts: 711	Well, I just bought an XL1-s for $2600US. Included case, MA-200 XLR mic adapter, Dual battery charger, and other misc. things. Under 12 hours use. (Doubt that.) Where $2600 US in UK pounds? Just saw an adv. on E-Bay for a PAL XL1-s for $800 US (do a search in E-BAY for "XL1-s". It should show up at the bottom of the list. Personally, I think it may well be a scam of some sort. At a 2-1 exchange, $800 US seems to be way below the average. I was close to purchasing the XL2 but had big concerns regarding how High Definition would impact the US market...and how quickly it would take hold. Finding an XL1-s at a reasonable price, which I was hoping would be around $2000 US, seemed like a cost effective way to resolve my need for an additional camera at reduced risk while I took the "wait and see" attitude with HD. Also, there was a post on DVinfo somewhere recently from a Croatian (or was it Ukranian? We Americans have a tendency to be geography-challenged at times. Probably has a lot to do with our self-centered nature) videographer who was most upset with the apparent lack of color saturation with the XL2. Responders to that post thought that the difference had to do with default saturation of color within the camera. If so, the XL1-s I just bought should come close to that of my GL1. I certainly hope so. Please pardon my wandering. In terms of light sensitivity, if you primarily find yourself shooting in low light conditions, the SONY products (VX 2100, PD 150/170) all beat the competition. Canon typicaly introduces now products after all other have placed their chips on the table, as it were. SONY always seem to be the first to show their hand. Like a physicianb's anti-bacterial prescription (a shotgun blast to kill anything in the path), SONY products tend to work everywhere to some degree, while the Canon product have a refinement that is appreciated with time and attention. Oh my!. Time flies, and it is my turn to cook dinner. time to leave this post. __________________ Waldemar

January 2nd, 2005, 12:11 PM	#17
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Thanks

January 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM	#19
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	So basically said, if it is really a XL1 you need , you can have it for a lot cheaper thean the price you mentionned. If it is just a good camera you need for the mentionned price, you can get a better than an XL1.

January 8th, 2005, 01:55 PM	#20
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Good luck, Waldemar, with the cam! By the way, I like your name... Waldemar... Okay, I'll leave now ;-)