Syncing two recording devices/DSR-V10 at DVinfo.net

Ken Barnes · November 8th, 2002, 06:26 PM

Hi,
I'm wondering if anyone uses a camcorder and a portable deck (like Sony DSR-V10)together while recording to get a back up of the tape while shooting? If so, can the two units be synced via lanc or firewire so that the camcorder's controls will also start and stop the deck?

Also, anyone with any experience with the DSR-V10? I'm considering buying one and would appreciate any comments pro and con. I'd like to use it both in the field under some tough conditions (hooked to a bullet cam for ski videos) as well as a deck for digitizing to my computer. I found a used one for about $1400 with 30 hours of wear. Is it a good deal?

Thanks in advance,

Ken

John Klein · November 9th, 2002, 01:45 AM

Sounds like a good deal to me. It's what, about $2k, new?

I've been using the digital 8 variation for one year and a second one for about 6 months. Each cost me about $800 w/ a battery. I use them via firewire instead of the tape section in the cam. Perhaps this is why I don't have the noises some people be.otch about??

One cam (xl1S) has the ability to start/stop the unit using the cam's controls. I use varizoom controllers (lanc) and they work fine to operate it, too. It's going to depend on which cam is being used. I have to use the buttons when using a pd100a, so I'd check the manual. (DV Control -- sends REC and REC PAUSE signals through the DV cable to an external IEEE1394 device. This can be another DV camcorder (such as an inexpensive Canon ZR10), a DV deck, or an external field-portable FireWire hardrive. Pausing and recording on the XL1S is duplicated on the other DV device, producing an exact copy on the spot, with identical timecode. Keeping one copy pristine, and using the other for logging purposes, is one application for this feature.)

IMO, the D8 is as just as stable as dvcam, but a lot cheaper. And I'm using straight 8mm maxells, not even hi8 tapes.

Does the v-10 give you an option to record in dv? Otherwise it's going to be 40 min. dvcam on a 60 dv tape. Could get confusing if the cam's got time to spare, but the portable unit is out of time.

Although for long runs, you could manually stop the one deck, change tapes, restart and then later change the tape in the camera. Just keep firing a flash unit (when each is running) so you can later synch them up for a long session.

Ken Barnes · November 10th, 2002, 05:23 AM

Awesome reply, thanks! Just what I wanted to know.

In reply to your question, no, the V-10 does not record in DV (does playback DV), only DVCam, so tape length is an issue although I believe there is a Panasonic tape that many pros are using that will record 60 minutes DVCam. (???)

Will my XL1 start/stop the unit as the XL1s does?

I know the Sony PD-150 will record in DVCam mode. I assume XL1S does not.

Anybody from Canon monitoring this list? Any plans for a DVCam model.... XL2??

Again, many thanks for the detailed, clear answer.

Ken

<<<-- Originally posted by 1 JoPhoto : Sounds like a good deal to me. It's what, about $2k, new?

I've been using the digital 8 variation for one year and a second one for about 6 months. Each cost me about $800 w/ a battery. I use them via firewire instead of the tape section in the cam. Perhaps this is why I don't have the noises some people be.otch about??

One cam (xl1S) has the ability to start/stop the unit using the cam's controls. I use varizoom controllers (lanc) and they work fine to operate it, too. It's going to depend on which cam is being used. I have to use the buttons when using a pd100a, so I'd check the manual. (DV Control -- sends REC and REC PAUSE signals through the DV cable to an external IEEE1394 device. This can be another DV camcorder (such as an inexpensive Canon ZR10), a DV deck, or an external field-portable FireWire hardrive. Pausing and recording on the XL1S is duplicated on the other DV device, producing an exact copy on the spot, with identical timecode. Keeping one copy pristine, and using the other for logging purposes, is one application for this feature.)

IMO, the D8 is as just as stable as dvcam, but a lot cheaper. And I'm using straight 8mm maxells, not even hi8 tapes.

Does the v-10 give you an option to record in dv? Otherwise it's going to be 40 min. dvcam on a 60 dv tape. Could get confusing if the cam's got time to spare, but the portable unit is out of time.

Although for long runs, you could manually stop the one deck, change tapes, restart and then later change the tape in the camera. Just keep firing a flash unit (when each is running) so you can later synch them up for a long session. -->>>

John Klein · November 11th, 2002, 11:39 AM

Not sure and doubting the straight xl1 will do the start/stop. I copied part of the paragraph on the 1S off another page (here) about the features on the improved features of the 1S.

BTW, There's even a walkman that doesn't have the LCD for less $$, if all you want is a portable deck, but I'd get the LCD. I tried to match the brightness of the LCD to approximate the brightness of my TV and let me tell you,... it's been really helpful! Now you need to keep within a certain angle of view, but it works great.

November 8th, 2002, 06:26 PM	#1
Ken Barnes New Boot Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 24	Syncing two recording devices/DSR-V10 Hi, I'm wondering if anyone uses a camcorder and a portable deck (like Sony DSR-V10)together while recording to get a back up of the tape while shooting? If so, can the two units be synced via lanc or firewire so that the camcorder's controls will also start and stop the deck? Also, anyone with any experience with the DSR-V10? I'm considering buying one and would appreciate any comments pro and con. I'd like to use it both in the field under some tough conditions (hooked to a bullet cam for ski videos) as well as a deck for digitizing to my computer. I found a used one for about $1400 with 30 hours of wear. Is it a good deal? Thanks in advance, Ken

November 9th, 2002, 01:45 AM	#2
John Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 182	Sounds like a good deal to me. It's what, about $2k, new? I've been using the digital 8 variation for one year and a second one for about 6 months. Each cost me about $800 w/ a battery. I use them via firewire instead of the tape section in the cam. Perhaps this is why I don't have the noises some people be.otch about?? One cam (xl1S) has the ability to start/stop the unit using the cam's controls. I use varizoom controllers (lanc) and they work fine to operate it, too. It's going to depend on which cam is being used. I have to use the buttons when using a pd100a, so I'd check the manual. (DV Control -- sends REC and REC PAUSE signals through the DV cable to an external IEEE1394 device. This can be another DV camcorder (such as an inexpensive Canon ZR10), a DV deck, or an external field-portable FireWire hardrive. Pausing and recording on the XL1S is duplicated on the other DV device, producing an exact copy on the spot, with identical timecode. Keeping one copy pristine, and using the other for logging purposes, is one application for this feature.) IMO, the D8 is as just as stable as dvcam, but a lot cheaper. And I'm using straight 8mm maxells, not even hi8 tapes. Does the v-10 give you an option to record in dv? Otherwise it's going to be 40 min. dvcam on a 60 dv tape. Could get confusing if the cam's got time to spare, but the portable unit is out of time. Although for long runs, you could manually stop the one deck, change tapes, restart and then later change the tape in the camera. Just keep firing a flash unit (when each is running) so you can later synch them up for a long session. __________________ < >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><

November 11th, 2002, 11:39 AM	#4
John Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 182	Not sure and doubting the straight xl1 will do the start/stop. I copied part of the paragraph on the 1S off another page (here) about the features on the improved features of the 1S. BTW, There's even a walkman that doesn't have the LCD for less $$, if all you want is a portable deck, but I'd get the LCD. I tried to match the brightness of the LCD to approximate the brightness of my TV and let me tell you,... it's been really helpful! Now you need to keep within a certain angle of view, but it works great. __________________ < >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><

November 10th, 2002, 05:23 AM	#3
Ken Barnes New Boot Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 24	Awesome reply, thanks! Just what I wanted to know. In reply to your question, no, the V-10 does not record in DV (does playback DV), only DVCam, so tape length is an issue although I believe there is a Panasonic tape that many pros are using that will record 60 minutes DVCam. (???) Will my XL1 start/stop the unit as the XL1s does? I know the Sony PD-150 will record in DVCam mode. I assume XL1S does not. Anybody from Canon monitoring this list? Any plans for a DVCam model.... XL2?? Again, many thanks for the detailed, clear answer. Ken <<<-- Originally posted by 1 JoPhoto : Sounds like a good deal to me. It's what, about $2k, new? I've been using the digital 8 variation for one year and a second one for about 6 months. Each cost me about $800 w/ a battery. I use them via firewire instead of the tape section in the cam. Perhaps this is why I don't have the noises some people be.otch about?? One cam (xl1S) has the ability to start/stop the unit using the cam's controls. I use varizoom controllers (lanc) and they work fine to operate it, too. It's going to depend on which cam is being used. I have to use the buttons when using a pd100a, so I'd check the manual. (DV Control -- sends REC and REC PAUSE signals through the DV cable to an external IEEE1394 device. This can be another DV camcorder (such as an inexpensive Canon ZR10), a DV deck, or an external field-portable FireWire hardrive. Pausing and recording on the XL1S is duplicated on the other DV device, producing an exact copy on the spot, with identical timecode. Keeping one copy pristine, and using the other for logging purposes, is one application for this feature.) IMO, the D8 is as just as stable as dvcam, but a lot cheaper. And I'm using straight 8mm maxells, not even hi8 tapes. Does the v-10 give you an option to record in dv? Otherwise it's going to be 40 min. dvcam on a 60 dv tape. Could get confusing if the cam's got time to spare, but the portable unit is out of time. Although for long runs, you could manually stop the one deck, change tapes, restart and then later change the tape in the camera. Just keep firing a flash unit (when each is running) so you can later synch them up for a long session. -->>>