CineForm and Sony Vegas 8

[Jeff Harper]

Thanks David. I am sure my Magic Bullet etc. for use in my highlight clips is sufficient!

[David Newman]

The issue for you is rendering of you MB ouptut back to M2T, which is very lossy. This is where CineForm can help. It also depended on your final distrubtion format.

[Jeff Harper]

I use the plug in, not the freestanding version...so in my case there are no re-compression issues...

[David Newman]

You are always compressing to something. But it you can target your destination format from the Vegas timeline, then you are set.

[Joseph Kassana]

How to I transfer my neohdv to vegas 8?? Do I need a new license?

[David Newman]

If it is not just working (no license transfers or upgrade required) try uninstalling NEO then reinstalling.

[Chuck Biddle]

I have read through and even after renaming, and even reinstalling the Player, the cfhd.dll file found in Vegas Pro 8 to old i am getting a
"Not licensed for Cineform HD encoding. Please visit...."
It's a new machine with Vista Ultimate 64bit. Any help would be appreciated.

[Ian Hay]

Chuck -

You appear to have Neo Player: Do you have one of the Neo encoding products, e.g. NEO HDV? David can correct me if I'm wrong, but if you only have the player, then that comes only with a viewing codec, not an encoding codec. By renaming the CFHD.DLL that comes with Vegas 8 to "old", you have disabled the only version of the codec on your system that is capable of encoding.

I thought that the discussion in this thread applied to those who have NEO HD or NEO HDV, and not to those with only Neo Player. Again, David can correct if I'm wrong.

[Chuck Biddle]

You are correct. I only have the cineform (2.5 or 2.8???) that orginally came with Vegas. I was under the impression, and I believe it worked on another workstation, that by simply downloading the player it would update to 3.3. I may have misunderstood that simply getting the player allowed for the 3.3 codec to be used. Dave??
I'm going to work a project or two from start to finsih with the codecs and see if it's worth the purchase. I decided if I'm going to use it at all just the on the fly conversion is worth the price.

[Chuck Biddle]

I tried one of my other workstations and it WILL render a 3.3 codec AVI from Vegas Pro 8. I believe I did the same thing with renaming the cfhd file. Any other suggestions or maybe it's a Vista 64bit problem on the new computer?

Help

[Garrett Low]

I am using NEO HDV to capture and convert HDV 24F from a Canon HV20 as well as an A1. When I open a Vegas project (version 7e) and I begin to pull clips to the timeline Vegas will all of a sudden shut down. Vegas will work fine with the 24F M2T clips from my A1 but when I try to use clips converted to CineForm Intermediate avi's it chokes. I saw some posts about this happening with Vegas 6 and have tried some of the suggestion/fixes for that but nothing is helping. I did download and install the latest version of Neo HDV so that isn't a fix (I did uninstall the earlier version before installing the latese).

I have a ticket into Cineform but have not recieved a reply yet. Any help would be appreciated as I'm tyring to get some editing done for a video I have to do in January.

Thanks,

[Marty Baggen]

After using Vegas 6 for music multitracking and sound work for my video stuff, I have upgraded to Vegas 8.

I'm currently set up with Adobe CS2/Premiere Pro 2 (aka Crash-o-matic), and Aspect 4.3 (I know, I know... I'll upgrade soon).

Is there any downside to using Vegas 8 with my CFHD clips? Is anyone else using this combo, or do I really need to add another breed of Cineform for Vegas to work best in the Cinform world?

I'd really like to fully explore this combo before plunking down the bucks to upgrade my Adobe suite. I'm willing to give up some of the multi program integration of Adobe, for a lean, stable NLE...and of course, the prospect (no pun intended) of working with EX1 footage soon.

[David Newman]

Vegas 8 will work fine with CineForm clips, however not as fast as Aspect HD allows in Premiere. Some Vegas 8 installations load an older CineForm codec, to prevent this rename the CFHD.dll file in the Vegas install directory. This issue is worse with Aspect HD v5 or NEO v3, as the old Vegas component is not longer compatible.

[Marty Baggen]

Thanks David. This will be a stop-gap until I go the Prospect route with the EX1. If I rename the file, will Vegas find the current installed codec, or do I need to reinstall Aspect after Vegas 8 is installed?

Since the year is just about gone, it's as good of time as any to say thanks to you and David Taylor for your steadfast support. It's truly a paradigm shift in customer support.

I thought about posting my question at around 11:55pm, just to see if you are able to monitor this board whilst singing Auld Lang Syne.

Thanks again, and Happy New Year.

[David Newman]

:)

Renaming the file, allows Vegas to find the new codec installed. Only some PCs find the wrong codec, so this is a preventive measure.