Rendering to CF avi's in Premiere CS4 at DVinfo.net

Ann Bens · April 12th, 2009, 04:37 AM

Whatever setting i choose in the CF codec (NeoScene) the avi (1440x1080) turns black after a few seconds.
Sometimes i get lucky and it does the whole sequence (Dec: rgb. Enc:ITU, High HD, interlaced).
By the way what are the best settings.

Andy Urtusuastegui · April 12th, 2009, 02:32 PM

I am having the same problem. I import converted Cineform files, edit, trim etc no problem. Vers 1.2 works good.

I then want to export my entire timeline as one CF AVI file for archiving etc. I use export>media>Microsoft AVI>Video>CineForm HD Coded 4.x

I found that if the exported file is UNDER 2gigabytes, it works ok. If the exported file is over 2gb, it does not play correctly in premiere. I noiced it does not show that the file has any audio if it is over 2gb in size.

I am on Vista x64 8mb Ram, Premiere CS4 4.0.1, NeoScene 1.2

David Newman · April 12th, 2009, 06:54 PM

Adobe VFW AVI exporters are limited to 2GB, it is a long exiting Adobe bug/limitation.

Ann Bens · April 13th, 2009, 01:39 PM

Do you have an answer for my question because my avi's are smaller than 2 gig?

Never mind i solved it. Added a Magic Bullet filter, rendered the whole timeline to a CF avi, 3,3 gig, no black.

David Newman · April 13th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Contact support. Andy above and myself can confirm that under 2GB should be working fine.

Andy Urtusuastegui · April 13th, 2009, 08:18 PM

Ann, are you saying you exported a 3.3gb file and it play ok, with sound and video in Premiere?

Charles W. Hull · April 13th, 2009, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Bens

Never mind i solved it. Added a Magic Bullet filter, rendered the whole timeline to a CF avi, 3,3 gig, no black.

Which filter?

Ann Bens · April 14th, 2009, 03:31 AM

Yes i rendered an over 5 minute 3.3 gig large CF avi with stereo audio and no black parts. Plays perfectly in the timeline.
Nested the timeline and added just the Vignette from Magic Bullet Looks.
Tried Fast Blur (no tweak) in Premiere (we used to do that in Premiere 6.5 for some reason) but that did not work.
So i believe MB adds something that gets the avi proberly rendered, besides i do not believe there is a 2 gig limitation on Adobes VFW.

Ann Bens · April 14th, 2009, 12:55 PM

Just did another test: 10 minutes timeline with MB and audio rendered to a 7.7 gig CF avi. Runs perfectly. Without MB its black.

Andy Urtusuastegui · April 14th, 2009, 03:49 PM

Ann, if I understand, if you try to export the timeline as a CF avi, and do not add any magic bullet effects, then the CF avi does NOT play correctly.

Also, what Product of MB do you have? I see they have different ones.

Ann Bens · April 14th, 2009, 05:07 PM

Yes that is what i am saying, it sounds weird but that is what i am experiencing.
Magic Bullet Looks 1.2.

April 12th, 2009, 04:37 AM	#1
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Rendering to CF avi's in Premiere CS4 Whatever setting i choose in the CF codec (NeoScene) the avi (1440x1080) turns black after a few seconds. Sometimes i get lucky and it does the whole sequence (Dec: rgb. Enc:ITU, High HD, interlaced). By the way what are the best settings.

April 12th, 2009, 06:54 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Adobe VFW AVI exporters are limited to 2GB, it is a long exiting Adobe bug/limitation. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 13th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Contact support. Andy above and myself can confirm that under 2GB should be working fine. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 12th, 2009, 02:32 PM	#2
Andy Urtusuastegui Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 166	I am having the same problem. I import converted Cineform files, edit, trim etc no problem. Vers 1.2 works good. I then want to export my entire timeline as one CF AVI file for archiving etc. I use export>media>Microsoft AVI>Video>CineForm HD Coded 4.x I found that if the exported file is UNDER 2gigabytes, it works ok. If the exported file is over 2gb, it does not play correctly in premiere. I noiced it does not show that the file has any audio if it is over 2gb in size. I am on Vista x64 8mb Ram, Premiere CS4 4.0.1, NeoScene 1.2

April 13th, 2009, 01:39 PM	#4
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Do you have an answer for my question because my avi's are smaller than 2 gig? Never mind i solved it. Added a Magic Bullet filter, rendered the whole timeline to a CF avi, 3,3 gig, no black.

April 13th, 2009, 08:18 PM	#6
Andy Urtusuastegui Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 166	Ann, are you saying you exported a 3.3gb file and it play ok, with sound and video in Premiere?

April 14th, 2009, 03:31 AM	#8
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Yes i rendered an over 5 minute 3.3 gig large CF avi with stereo audio and no black parts. Plays perfectly in the timeline. Nested the timeline and added just the Vignette from Magic Bullet Looks. Tried Fast Blur (no tweak) in Premiere (we used to do that in Premiere 6.5 for some reason) but that did not work. So i believe MB adds something that gets the avi proberly rendered, besides i do not believe there is a 2 gig limitation on Adobes VFW.

April 14th, 2009, 12:55 PM	#9
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Just did another test: 10 minutes timeline with MB and audio rendered to a 7.7 gig CF avi. Runs perfectly. Without MB its black.

April 14th, 2009, 03:49 PM	#10
Andy Urtusuastegui Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 166	Ann, if I understand, if you try to export the timeline as a CF avi, and do not add any magic bullet effects, then the CF avi does NOT play correctly. Also, what Product of MB do you have? I see they have different ones.

April 14th, 2009, 05:07 PM	#11
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Yes that is what i am saying, it sounds weird but that is what i am experiencing. Magic Bullet Looks 1.2.