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Old April 15th, 2009, 05:26 AM   #1
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How much of a "beating" can CF codec take before showing bruises?

I suppose this is a question that may have been asked before, but i honestly could not find the answer on this forum.

What I wanted to know is... with the convienance of transcoding AVCHD footage one time to CF (neoscene) and then messing around with it back and forth between Premiere pro and AE, at what stage would you expect a visible "loss" in this visibly "lossless" codec?

I understand that there is the option on sort "frame serving" between PPro and AE CS4, but what about for older versions of PPro and AE.
And lets face it.. no matter what adobe says about the integrated approach of all these workflows.. there are numeroud glitches that I have seen on very high spec Raid array, Quad extreme machines.

Anyway.. getting back to the question.. do you think that there is a quality score that we can refer to? ie.. after how many re-encodes of footage on a timeline will there be a visible drop in quality? 2? 3? more?

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Old April 15th, 2009, 07:09 AM   #2
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Here's an unbiased comparison of intermediate codecs. See if this helps:

Eugenia’s Rants and Thoughts Blog Archive Intermediate Codecs: the face-off
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Old April 15th, 2009, 07:52 AM   #3
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Great Link.
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Old April 15th, 2009, 09:46 AM   #4
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Here's an unbiased comparison of intermediate codecs. See if this helps:

Eugenia’s Rants and Thoughts Blog Archive Intermediate Codecs: the face-off
Is there by chance a comparison of Cineform and Canopus somewhere?
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Old April 15th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #5
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I believe the canopus codec is similar to the matrox's mpeg2 i-frame codec tested in the article, but I am not sure.
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Old April 17th, 2009, 10:30 AM   #6
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Excellent link Jay.
Thankyou for that! Cineform it is then.
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Old June 9th, 2009, 11:53 PM   #7
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It has the best price-speed-quality ratio, yeah.

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Old June 12th, 2009, 05:12 AM   #8
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This thread got hijacked by discussion of Avid. Those posts have been moved to a new thread in the Avid forum:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/avid-edit...-opinions.html

Please stay on topic.
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