Cineform Question at DVinfo.net

Mark Webb · August 15th, 2010, 11:56 PM

Ok im trying out neohd with premiere cs5 im shooting in 1080i/50 16:9 25fps
what cineform preset should i use for cs5 hdv 1440x1080i (25fps) or hdv 1440x1080p (25fps)?

Also when i have captured my clips and place them on the timeline i get the redline showing should i then do a render?

when i then export what settings are best for bluray and what is best for dvd?

Dan Herrmann · August 16th, 2010, 03:54 AM

If you are capturing your video with HDLink then use the preset of your recorded video.

If not then you will render to the preset you chose in CS5.

Should be no redline if your catured in HDLink to the same setting you shot with.

Mark Webb · August 16th, 2010, 03:33 PM

ok thanks, yes i will capture in cs5 and choose the same preset as source video (50i 25fps) so i would select the cineform 1080 50i 25fps correct?

then export to h.264 blu ray

Steve Pesenti · August 16th, 2010, 04:43 PM

There's a comment from Cineform in the thread link below that you can use any preset. Not just the Cineform ones - unless you are editing 3D.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/cineform...questions.html

As long as you use a preset matching the format you shot - 1080 50i 25fps - you should be OK.

John Quandt · August 21st, 2010, 06:52 PM

With the new process flow in CS, you shouldn't export a video from Premiere to import into Encore. You should create a project in Encore and import the timelines from Premiere. This way you preserve the chapter marks you added to the Premiere timeline. Additionally, you then create a high-def project in Encore and are able to render the final disc files in both Blu-Ray and DVD format without any extra authoring in Encore.

This also has the advantage, when you preview the disc project in Encore, of allowing you to go back and fix the Premiere timeline without having to do another render. I sometimes forget to add 15 frames of black to end of my Premiere timelines after a short fadeout. (I add the black frames, so the screen blacks out before jumping back to the disc menu during playback, which looks better than leaving a faded out frame displayed on the screen, while the player shifts gears.) If I'm importing the timelines in Encore, I don't have to do another render.

John Rich · August 21st, 2010, 08:34 PM

John,
Are you saying that you use the same sized menu's for both BluRay and DVD's and Encore changes the size of the menus if you change from BluRay to DVD in the preferences? If so , do you use 1920x1080 for the menu's and then Encore automatically downscales the menu's to 720x480 Par 1.2 if you select DVD?

I guess also, Encore has to downscale the footage. I wonder if that's as good as using HDLink?

Thanks for your help.
John Rich

John Quandt · August 22nd, 2010, 12:09 PM

Yup, I design the menus in HD and let Encore downsample them in the DVD authoring automatically. Saves a lot of time letting Encore generate both the Blu-Ray and DVD discs from the same project.

August 15th, 2010, 11:56 PM	#1
Mark Webb New Boot Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 22	Cineform Question Ok im trying out neohd with premiere cs5 im shooting in 1080i/50 16:9 25fps what cineform preset should i use for cs5 hdv 1440x1080i (25fps) or hdv 1440x1080p (25fps)? Also when i have captured my clips and place them on the timeline i get the redline showing should i then do a render? when i then export what settings are best for bluray and what is best for dvd?

August 16th, 2010, 03:54 AM	#2
Dan Herrmann Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: villa park CA Posts: 81	If you are capturing your video with HDLink then use the preset of your recorded video. If not then you will render to the preset you chose in CS5. Should be no redline if your catured in HDLink to the same setting you shot with.

August 16th, 2010, 03:33 PM	#3
Mark Webb New Boot Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 22	ok thanks, yes i will capture in cs5 and choose the same preset as source video (50i 25fps) so i would select the cineform 1080 50i 25fps correct? then export to h.264 blu ray

August 16th, 2010, 04:43 PM	#4
Steve Pesenti Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 60	There's a comment from Cineform in the thread link below that you can use any preset. Not just the Cineform ones - unless you are editing 3D. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/cineform...questions.html As long as you use a preset matching the format you shot - 1080 50i 25fps - you should be OK.

August 21st, 2010, 06:52 PM	#5
John Quandt Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ogden UT Posts: 40	With the new process flow in CS, you shouldn't export a video from Premiere to import into Encore. You should create a project in Encore and import the timelines from Premiere. This way you preserve the chapter marks you added to the Premiere timeline. Additionally, you then create a high-def project in Encore and are able to render the final disc files in both Blu-Ray and DVD format without any extra authoring in Encore. This also has the advantage, when you preview the disc project in Encore, of allowing you to go back and fix the Premiere timeline without having to do another render. I sometimes forget to add 15 frames of black to end of my Premiere timelines after a short fadeout. (I add the black frames, so the screen blacks out before jumping back to the disc menu during playback, which looks better than leaving a faded out frame displayed on the screen, while the player shifts gears.) If I'm importing the timelines in Encore, I don't have to do another render.

August 21st, 2010, 08:34 PM	#6
John Rich Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 80	John, Are you saying that you use the same sized menu's for both BluRay and DVD's and Encore changes the size of the menus if you change from BluRay to DVD in the preferences? If so , do you use 1920x1080 for the menu's and then Encore automatically downscales the menu's to 720x480 Par 1.2 if you select DVD? I guess also, Encore has to downscale the footage. I wonder if that's as good as using HDLink? Thanks for your help. John Rich

August 22nd, 2010, 12:09 PM	#7
John Quandt Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ogden UT Posts: 40	Yup, I design the menus in HD and let Encore downsample them in the DVD authoring automatically. Saves a lot of time letting Encore generate both the Blu-Ray and DVD discs from the same project.