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Anmol Mishra March 15th, 2010 01:28 AM

Hi Perrone. The problem is that we have a choice of intermediate codecs but very few acquisition hd codecs..

There is MJPEG, uncompressed -120 MBps, huffyuv compressed lossless..
Huffy derivatives like AMV..
And thats it, without shelling out for a Matrox..
MJPEG is still better than HDV..So a mini-itx box, will cost about 300-400 cost with an intensity and a touchscreen monitor with batteries..At total of 500 and we can acquire better than hdv..

I want to see what the next step up is - there are some colorspace issues with huffyuv and possibly with amv.

For cineform I am essentially doubling my acquisition cost (did it already and have a NeoHD license). However, I cannot do this with multiple cameras, or a 3s stereo rig..

Hence I am looking for options..

Dirac and MJ2K do not allow for realtime capture

Anmol Mishra March 15th, 2010 05:37 AM

We did a test posted at vimeo
We played out a SMPTE color bar from a 5d Mark II. It was ingested with a BM Intensity card using Virtualdub. There were 2 files, a special Huffyuv build for HDYC and the default BM MJPEG. As you scroll through the video it can be seen that the colorspace changes when Huffyuv records. This is a confirmation of the problem first noticed at
etfinder.net/capturepics/

Will post AMV comparisons later..

David Newman March 15th, 2010 08:46 AM

Anmol,

NeoHD allows for two activations, so we are not doubling your acquisition cost. While we aren't a free solution, we are one of the best for acquisition, striving for lower cost will be at the expense of quality. If you are looking to build an acquisition product, that you are going to sell on to others, you need consider OEM prices, just like many others who have select CineForm as their primarily acquisition format.

Anmol Mishra March 15th, 2010 04:42 PM

Hi David. I sent an inquiry about the 2 activations on another forum. I did not get a reply.
The software does not allow a second activation on its own until the 1 is deactivated.

I am not looking to make a OEM product, but I am concerned about being tied down to an expensive proprietary technology.

It was also a surprise when NeoHD v3 was discontinued in terms of development.

I can actually afford a second license, but I really do not think its fair to buy another one.

I am aware that NeoHD is the best acquisition option at this time.

Anmol Mishra March 15th, 2010 09:01 PM

Hi David. I opened a support ticket #611-8307416. Lets see how the request for a second activation goes..

David Newman March 15th, 2010 09:06 PM

Unless you are used it already, the license server is typical set for two activation per serial. You might just want to try it.

Anmol Mishra March 16th, 2010 07:13 AM

negative
 
Hi David. I definitely have 1 activation (for NeoHD). I got this message when I tried to activate on my capture box..I wont post the serial and other personal details at the bottom but I can PM you with those details if you like..

>>>
Dear ANMOL MISHRA,

This serial number has already been activated. If you wish to transfer your CineForm software to another PC, you will need to deactivate your existing installation first and provide to us the deactivation code that is generated.

To deactivate your previous installation of CineForm software:
1) To deactivate your installation, your CineForm software must be installed. If you have uninstalled it, you must reinstall it in order to deactivate it.
2) Click the Start Button
3) Click on 'All Programs'
4) Click on 'CineForm'
5) Click on the folder that corresponds to your product
6) Click 'Activate'
7) Be prepared to write down your deactivation code. Click 'Deactivate'.
8) You will be prompted to confirm that you wish to deactivate. When you confirm deactivation WRITE DOWN the deactivation code. It is also recommended to take a screenshot of the deactivation code as well for your own records.
9) Visit Deactivate.aspx and fill out the form with the appropriate information.

Best Regards,

CineForm Support

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SUBJECT: Activate Submitted
CONTENT:text/plain; charset=us-ascii

David Newman March 16th, 2010 09:23 AM

Not an issue, then support will help you.


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