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.....However, when it comes to digital Cinema, then we're looking at a different set of delivery parameters. i.e. 35 MM cinema projection and 4K digital cinema projection, and possible 3D shooting with two identical cameras and XDR's. Green screen plate recording for heavy Adobe After Effects work and a film out at the end. .....To my way of thinking, the Flash XDR really hits its ultimate application in uncompressed digital cinema shooting and master VTR replacement, and of course, this would also be where the hyper expensive 64 GB cards become justifiable. Respectfully, Mark |
Dear Mark,
I was not trying to address uncompressed. I was trying to say that there is a very wide range of quality versus length of recording options available with the Flash XDR and nanoFlash, all without "Hot Swapping". For full uncompressed, four 32 GB cards in a Flash XDR gives you more recording time than a large film magazine. Four 64 GB cards gives you twice the recording time of four 32 GB cards. Competition should drive the price of the 64 GB cards down, once other manufacturers release their 64 GB or larger cards. |
My apologies for the misunderstanding. Yes, you are quite correct on this :-) Also, the addition of adding a hot swapping feature for use on long speech and sit down interviews (Like we're shooting now) would be a wonderful feature to have.
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We are constantly running into record length issues with the NanoFlash. With our high speed cameras the 1080p24 output is almost constant for the entire NFL game since we are expanding time. Stopping for even 30 seconds is a hindrance and quality is everything.
For longer (10 hour) events like the World Series of Poker Europe where we are simultaneously running 18 Nanos and XDR's at 50Mbs we would need to double our useage of Sandisk cards to run 2 cards at a time and as well have 2 sets. That increases cost greatly and some of you guys probably have still not forgiven me after I bought out B&H recently, lol. The thing that will be much more useful to us than the 64GB cards is hot swapping 32GB cards. That will end up saving quite a bit of cost for us. Jeff |
Hot Swap and 64GB CF Cards
Hi Jeff, Mark-
We plan to give you both options: Hot Swap and compatibility with the 64GB Extreme Pro CF cards. We have already qualified the SanDisk 32GB Extreme CF card for all bit-rates. As soon as we can get the 64GB card we will also qualify it (or make appropriate changes to our firmware). The 32GB Extreme card worked with no code changes. Hot Swap is still on target for a November release. We are testing time-lapse code now (which looks fantastic at 220 Mbps) and hope to begin debug on over/under crank next week. Once this code is released we will work on hot-swap and loop-record. Naturally, reliability remains a key concern, so we always test the code across 10-15 boxes in which we record material over a week. That generates a ton of files to view and confirm, but it is time well spent. Best- |
Hi Mike. I am glad to know how seriously and thoroughly you test your code. It's really amazing to see how you folks can actually keep adding features, which of course is adding value to our XDR's and Nano's. I have not even seen regular full motion video @ the 220 I frame setting yet, so I am quite excited to see the Timelapse as well.
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Some Time & Some More Perspective
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.....As someone else pointed out on this thread, the newer, faster CF card memmory is probably coming from a new manufacturing process and/or facility with possibly much smaller production yields. Therefore, one can expect to pay somewhat higher prices for the faster, newer memmory. Obsteporus Chris the Rex pointed out that memmory prices head in one direction - down, so maybe as time and higher yields take hold, we will start to see some more realistic pricing on the 60 and 90 MB per second CF media from Sandisk. |
New 64GB Card Looks Very Promising
Give us another day or so of testing, but I am optimistic that we may have found a new 64GB CF card that lists for $300 and is capable of all bit-rates up to 220Mbps.
More info in a few days. Best- |
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Mike,
What card are you checking out? Very interested. Thanks, Garrett |
Sounds like the Photofast cards that Rob Galbraith reviewed positively.
Rob Galbraith DPI: SanDisk, Transcend and PhotoFast roll out speedy cards up to 64GB Photofast Compact Flash* SDHC Class 10 CFAST CF Flash Cards |
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Yes, this is the one! Initial test results look very good. I'll have more info next week. Best- |
Thanks Mike and Mike,
Looking forward to more info. Garrett |
CF Media Performance & Prices Dropping Dramatically
Hi Mike & Mike:
I must say I'm quite encouraged to see how fast the price is dropping versus performance on the newer CF card media. It looks like we will be seeing 64 GB CF cards in the $300.00 range, which will allow much higher Long GOP data rate recording on the XDR and Nano. :-) Yay ! |
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