Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac at DVinfo.net

Peter Corbett · May 11th, 2011, 04:12 AM

We just did our first commercial shoot with the Nanoflash and are having all sorts of problems. We shot on a Sony F3 with onboard SxS card and the Nano in 1080 25P.

Problem 1:
Imported 220mbit I-frame Nanoflash QuickTimes imported into Premiere CS5 are noticeably lower in gamma (darker) compared to the XDCAM SxS MP4 files. The difference is very noticeable. When played in FCP, the gamma is identical.

Problem 2:
Importing the same Nanoflash QuickTimes into Windows Premiere Pro (on our Win7 PC) gives a message as I import, "Codec missing or unavailable".

Any clues?

Peter

Simon Wood · May 11th, 2011, 04:58 AM

Problem 2: Have you tried converting the MOV to MXF (using the free converter available from the CD website)? I'm pretty sure the MXF files work a lot better on PC's (do you have Premiere CS5 on the PC)?

Peter Corbett · May 11th, 2011, 05:48 AM

Thanks Simon, that worked on both CS5 on Mac and CS5 PC. It seems crazy though to have to convert XDCAM Nano files just to edit with. We have a 120gb project which will become a 240gb project after converting all the files. I hope there is no quality loss.

Still I'm glad we can complete the edit. Thanks again.

Dan Keaton · May 11th, 2011, 06:25 AM

Dear Peter,

There is no quality loss when using our File Converter.

This is a re-wrap of the file. The Headers and Trailers get changed, the "Essense" (the actual Video and Audio) does not get changed.

Generally, for editing on PC's,we recommend shooting in ".MXF" (there can be exceptions).

For editing with Final Cut Pro, we recommend shooting in ".MOV" (Quicktime).

If you need to edit on both, or don't know, then we recommend shooting in ".MOV" as we provide a ".MOV" to ".MXF" converter.

If you shoot in ".MXF" and need ".MOV" the Sony XDCam Transfer Utility will handle this.

Peter Corbett · May 11th, 2011, 07:09 AM

Thanks Dan, We were always going to edit in CS5 on the Mac, but the weird gamma shift (twowards dark) is a strange one. I can send you a link that shows the effect in a split screen.

Steve Kalle · May 11th, 2011, 11:50 PM

Is there any gamma issue with the MXF files? If not, I would believe the issue is due to Quicktime and how Adobe has their own special 64bit Quicktime decoder since Apple has not released a 64bit QT.

Peter Corbett · May 12th, 2011, 12:09 AM

No the MXF files are fine which leads me to thinking that CS5 is to be blame here. Very frustrating. I have CS5.5 arriving next week, so they may help. Thanks for the interest.

Steve Kalle · May 12th, 2011, 12:16 AM

I wouldn't blame Adobe especially since the MXF files work fine. Also, Quicktime has been known to have gamma shift issues for years.

May 11th, 2011, 04:12 AM	#1
Peter Corbett Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 246	Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac We just did our first commercial shoot with the Nanoflash and are having all sorts of problems. We shot on a Sony F3 with onboard SxS card and the Nano in 1080 25P. Problem 1: Imported 220mbit I-frame Nanoflash QuickTimes imported into Premiere CS5 are noticeably lower in gamma (darker) compared to the XDCAM SxS MP4 files. The difference is very noticeable. When played in FCP, the gamma is identical. Problem 2: Importing the same Nanoflash QuickTimes into Windows Premiere Pro (on our Win7 PC) gives a message as I import, "Codec missing or unavailable". Any clues? Peter __________________ Peter Corbett Powerhouse Productions www.php.com.au

May 11th, 2011, 04:58 AM	#2
Simon Wood Major Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Entebbe Uganda Posts: 768	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac Problem 2: Have you tried converting the MOV to MXF (using the free converter available from the CD website)? I'm pretty sure the MXF files work a lot better on PC's (do you have Premiere CS5 on the PC)? __________________ http://vimeo.com/channels/guerrillafilms

May 11th, 2011, 05:48 AM	#3
Peter Corbett Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 246	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac Thanks Simon, that worked on both CS5 on Mac and CS5 PC. It seems crazy though to have to convert XDCAM Nano files just to edit with. We have a 120gb project which will become a 240gb project after converting all the files. I hope there is no quality loss. Still I'm glad we can complete the edit. Thanks again. __________________ Peter Corbett Powerhouse Productions www.php.com.au

May 11th, 2011, 06:25 AM	#4
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac Dear Peter, There is no quality loss when using our File Converter. This is a re-wrap of the file. The Headers and Trailers get changed, the "Essense" (the actual Video and Audio) does not get changed. Generally, for editing on PC's,we recommend shooting in ".MXF" (there can be exceptions). For editing with Final Cut Pro, we recommend shooting in ".MOV" (Quicktime). If you need to edit on both, or don't know, then we recommend shooting in ".MOV" as we provide a ".MOV" to ".MXF" converter. If you shoot in ".MXF" and need ".MOV" the Sony XDCam Transfer Utility will handle this. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

May 11th, 2011, 07:09 AM	#5
Peter Corbett Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 246	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac Thanks Dan, We were always going to edit in CS5 on the Mac, but the weird gamma shift (twowards dark) is a strange one. I can send you a link that shows the effect in a split screen. __________________ Peter Corbett Powerhouse Productions www.php.com.au Last edited by Peter Corbett; May 11th, 2011 at 07:47 AM.

May 11th, 2011, 11:50 PM	#6
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac Is there any gamma issue with the MXF files? If not, I would believe the issue is due to Quicktime and how Adobe has their own special 64bit Quicktime decoder since Apple has not released a 64bit QT.

May 12th, 2011, 12:09 AM	#7
Peter Corbett Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 246	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac No the MXF files are fine which leads me to thinking that CS5 is to be blame here. Very frustrating. I have CS5.5 arriving next week, so they may help. Thanks for the interest. __________________ Peter Corbett Powerhouse Productions www.php.com.au

May 12th, 2011, 12:16 AM	#8
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: Can't import Nanoflash files into Win CS5 and gamma shift in Mac I wouldn't blame Adobe especially since the MXF files work fine. Also, Quicktime has been known to have gamma shift issues for years.