music video shot all on green screen, should i edit 1st? at DVinfo.net

Dave Morgan · February 16th, 2010, 11:40 PM

if i shoot a music video all on green screen, would i want to edit the video 1st and then do all keying? or what work flow would be best for this?

Dean Sensui · February 17th, 2010, 02:35 AM

Edit first for timing and rhythm.

That way you won't be spending lots of time composting material you're not going to use.

Andy Tejral · February 17th, 2010, 06:51 AM

Hopefully, you are using a loss-less codec--uncompressed, cineform, canopus HQ. Raw HDV or AVC could be a problem down the road.

Gregory Gesch · February 17th, 2010, 05:36 PM

Hi Dave. Just be aware of transitions in your edit, straight cuts shouldn't cause headaches but if you are using anything else you might want to bring the clip/instance into AE, insert your background, then take it back into your NLE to do the transition there.

Dean Sensui · February 18th, 2010, 02:57 AM

I should add that I rely heavily on Automatic Duck.

That allows me to edit in FCP, then move the composition to AE. From there I can fine-tune, composite, etc.

It's a real time saver!

Paul R Johnson · February 18th, 2010, 03:05 AM

If the end product is just editing foreground with continuous effects background, then I too would edit first for 'flow' then add the background, but if each shot is 'unique', then I'd probably do each one separately. It depends if the background is somehow linked to the foreground.

February 16th, 2010, 11:40 PM	#1
Dave Morgan Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 293	music video shot all on green screen, should i edit 1st? if i shoot a music video all on green screen, would i want to edit the video 1st and then do all keying? or what work flow would be best for this?

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Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Edit first for timing and rhythm. That way you won't be spending lots of time composting material you're not going to use. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

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Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Hopefully, you are using a loss-less codec--uncompressed, cineform, canopus HQ. Raw HDV or AVC could be a problem down the road. __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

February 18th, 2010, 02:57 AM	#5
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	I should add that I rely heavily on Automatic Duck. That allows me to edit in FCP, then move the composition to AE. From there I can fine-tune, composite, etc. It's a real time saver! __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

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February 17th, 2010, 05:36 PM	#4
Gregory Gesch Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 114	Hi Dave. Just be aware of transitions in your edit, straight cuts shouldn't cause headaches but if you are using anything else you might want to bring the clip/instance into AE, insert your background, then take it back into your NLE to do the transition there.

February 18th, 2010, 03:05 AM	#6
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	If the end product is just editing foreground with continuous effects background, then I too would edit first for 'flow' then add the background, but if each shot is 'unique', then I'd probably do each one separately. It depends if the background is somehow linked to the foreground.