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Simon Wood April 8th, 2013 03:31 PM

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Because they have to protect their high-end equipment through market differentiation. It almost seemed like there was a gentleman's pact between them to keep the high end stuff at high end prices, and then cripple everything in stages below it.

RED shook that up with the Red One, and they had to change their strategies somewhat and lower the prices of their high end equipment (and add new features).

It will be interesting to see how they respond to Black Magic.

Ryan Jones April 8th, 2013 04:59 PM

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Just ordered my PCC too. Too tempting to pass up. Looking forward to experimenting with it.

Dave Bacon April 8th, 2013 06:06 PM

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Pocket Cam pre ordered!!!

Vaughan Wood April 8th, 2013 08:12 PM

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Pocket Cam Pre-ordered too!

Duane Adam April 8th, 2013 08:15 PM

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Don't need another small camera but just ordered the 4K. And a case of hard drives.

Jay Kavi April 8th, 2013 09:56 PM

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I was really feeling the 4k, but then I noticed no slo motion :(. The pocket looks amazing, if it had still capabilities I'd sell my GH3.

James Palanza April 9th, 2013 12:18 AM

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Wow the pocket cam is unreal, just made the GH2 obsolete for video.
But Im trying to save up for a FS100damnit.

Noa Put April 9th, 2013 12:29 AM

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Quote:

just made the GH2 obsolete for video
I rather wait and see what it can do :) I had the bmc on my mind beginning this year because I loved the images that some users where able to pull out of this camera but got a nex-ea50 instead because I knew it would fit my kind of work (weddings, events,run and gun and shooting alone) much better.
But I must say I"m very tempted by that pocket cam as well, if it comes anywhere near it's bigger 2,5k brother in terms of the imagequality I will buy it as well. But I rather wait a few months to see the first user videos appear, what downsides it might have and until it becomes available at the stores. I don't like buying a camera based on specs alone.

Buba Kastorski April 9th, 2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Noa Put (Post 1789588)
I rather wait a few months to see the first user videos appear, what downsides it might have and until it becomes available at the stores. I don't like buying a camera based on specs alone.

right on, it only takes a push of a button to buy anything :)
and even though i am positive that image quality will be more than just acceptable and i am planning to get both BM cameras, but i need to see the footage, and even better shoot my own before i do that, was really close to preorder BMCC last year, glad i didin't do that.

John McCully April 9th, 2013 02:44 AM

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My understanding is that this pocket cam won’t be available until July. I went ahead and pushed the button (no money has changed hands as yet) knowing full well that there is lots of time between now and then to view footage.

I reckon this thing will sell like hot cakes and I thought get in the queue, now. And anyway, it’s only a measly $1000.

Noa Put April 9th, 2013 02:51 AM

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My understanding is that this pocket cam won’t be available until July
That remains to be seen, I figure they will get swamped with orders and we can only hope they don't run into the same delivery issues as with the BMC.

John McCully April 9th, 2013 03:02 AM

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I agree Noa, July might be optimistic based on past performance. All the more reason to get your order in now, I reckon, so I did.

Noa Put April 9th, 2013 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Joy (Post 1789466)
10-bit, 422 prores in the PCC out of the box. Raw will come sometime down the road.

From what I understand raw would not be possible with the pocketcam but "only" prores?

Look at 07:07, he doesn't mention it will be in a future update.


Philip Lipetz April 9th, 2013 05:01 AM

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One floor reps contradicted the official announcement, official website, and beta tester John Brawley.

James Palanza April 9th, 2013 08:39 AM

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either way, 4:2:2 and all that dynamic range, seems like it'll smack my gh2 around pretty good.


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