Sony NEX-FS700R announced!

[Anthony Mozora]

NEX-FS700R (NXCAM Super35mm Sensor Camcorder) - YouTube

[James Manford]

Decent bit of kit !

[Piotr Wozniacki]

Yeah, but what are the differences - the motorized 18200 zoom in the kit, and firmware v.3.01 from the factory? Is that all?

[Chris Hurd]

The way I'm reading it, all of the previous v3 firmware changes provided by the paid upgrade back in June are now directly incorporated into the camera at the factory... in other words, what used to be optional on the FS700 before has now become standard equipment on the FS700R. To wit:

4K RAW output over HD-SDI
4k/120 and 2K/240 slo-mo (RAW over HD-SDI)
SLog2 and Rec 709 gamma curves
onboard 4K recording no longer requires AXS-R5

-- am I getting that right? Haven't seen an english press release yet and Google's translation tools are less than perfect.

[Piotr Wozniacki]

onboard 4K recording

Very much doubt it, Chris...

[Glen Vandermolen]

I'm pretty sure it can't record 4K in the camera. It would need 4 SDHC cards, like the HMQ10, to handle all that data.

[Chris Hurd]

D'oh! Of course. Like I said, poor translation, plus I haven't had my coffee yet. Thanks, fellows.

"Onboard" doesn't belong on that line; my error. What's meant by the rest of that statement is that 4K output is now included; previously it was provided with the purchase of the AXS-R5. That's why the translations I'm reading are saying "4K no longer requires AXS-R5." They mean, no longer requires the purchase of that unit. And I'm up after only a couple hours of sleep. Zzzzz.

[Dmitri Zigany]

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

D'oh! Of course. Like I said, poor translation, plus I haven't had my coffee yet. Thanks, fellows.

"Onboard" doesn't belong on that line; my error. What's meant by the rest of that statement is that 4K output is now included; previously it was provided with the purchase of the AXS-R5. That's why the translations I'm reading are saying "4K no longer requires AXS-R5." They mean, no longer requires the purchase of that unit. And I'm up after only a couple hours of sleep. Zzzzz.

I think you're still getting it wrong. You never needed to purchase the AXS-R5, only get it to Sony to do the €500 hardware/firmware upgrade to 3.0 and it outputs 4K. But the only ways to record it is to the AXS-R5 or the yet to be released Convergent Designs OdesseyQ7...

[Dmitri Zigany]

CVS (Belgium?) has it listed for €5.695 +VAT, CVP in UK has the old one for €6.229 +VAT (no price on the R yet). Is that a price drop or have CVS always been cheaper? (prices for the non kit lens version)

[Piotr Wozniacki]

The price you quote already includes VAT at CVP.

[Dmitri Zigany]

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki

The price you quote already includes VAT at CVP.

Nope, and now it's gone up to €6.248 + VAT... It's £6.270 inc VAT, the page defaults to Pounds, you have to change it to Euros in the top right corner...

[Piotr Wozniacki]

Oh, indeed - I stand corrected.

[Dmitri Zigany]

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki

Oh, indeed - I stand corrected.

How much is it in Zloty's? Going to Warszawa tonight! :)

[Chris Hurd]

Originally Posted by Dmitri Zigany

I think you're still getting it wrong. You never needed to purchase the AXS-R5, only get it to Sony to do the €500 hardware/firmware upgrade to 3.0 and it outputs 4K. But the only ways to record it is to the AXS-R5 or the yet to be released Convergent Designs OdesseyQ7...

Very well, I should learn not to post without being fully awake.

Previously, when you bought the AXS-R5, it included the 4K output upgrade at no extra charge.

I did not mean to imply that this was the only way to get 4K output, but it seems I have done just that. Of course you could buy the firmware upgrade without the recorder. But, if you bought the recorder, the upgrade was included at no extra charge. Now it's included directly in the FS700R camera, no upgrade required.

And I'm still on my first coffee. Apologies for the senior moment(s).

[Dmitri Zigany]

I know the coffee depravation feeling all to well! :D