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Sony has a new 4K ˝-inch 3-chip video camera - Sony PXW-Z300
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It's standout shiny new feature is being the first camera with footage authentication via embedded digital signatures. Just the thing for combatting "misinformation" and AI shenanigans.
Optical zoom is 17x with the ability to do an additional 1.5x in 4K mode and 4x in HD mode via the digital extender function. "And now for DVinfo's resident Sony camera expert Doug Jensen. Doug, what can you tell us about this new camera?" :-) Andrew |
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I've been involved in the development of the Z300 for almost a year, and a couple of the Japanese engineers even brought a prototype to my house in Florida last December to get my feedback. And then I saw it again at NAB. It is going a great camera, with one huge flaw . . . no viewfinder. I couldn't convince Sony that a lot of us older, successful, experienced, professional shooters still insist on a viewfinder!!!!
They are hoping to rely on 3rd-party accessory makers to fill that gap with an optical loupe to clamp onto the LCD, but there's nothing available yet from Zacuto or any of the other major players. To Sony's credit, though, the LCD mount is quite robust (unlike the FX6) and should handle the weight of a good viewfinder loupe when those accessories become availalble. I left Florida at the end of June for a 4-month road trip through the Canadian Rockies and Alaska, and I was supposed to have a pre-production Z300 to bring with me, but it ended up not being ready in time. And I don't want to receive it in the middle of my trip -- especially without a viewfinder solution already figured out. But I do look forward to getting my hands on one in November and putting it through it's paces. The Z200 has already become the camera I use most frequently, and I expect the Z300 might replace both my Z280 and Z200. I think they'll sell a ton of them. No other camcorder from any manufacturer can match it's specs or features. That's my take on the Z300. Thanks for asking. (currently in Haines, AK) |
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Thanks for all that, Doug.
How do you rate the 'AI empowered' advancements in autofocus on the camera? Would you be prepared to trust it in real life? Andrew |
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AF should be fantastic. My Z200 uses AI and I rarely ever need to focus the lens manually. Somehow it just knows what is supposed to be in focus. And if I do focus manually, it takes that information and says"okay, that's what is important, so I'll track focus on that object". It just works.
I can say that the Z200 has the best AF of any video camera ever made. So, the Z300 will just build on that. |
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I agree with Doug. I recently returned from a two-week trip to Botswana. I used the Canon XF605 to film the wildlife and believe me, I used the EVF 90% of the time. At my age I would never buy a camcorder/cinema camera that did not have an EVF, although it looks like all camera manufacturers are dropping the EFV. Trust me, bouncing around in a safari vehicle while having the LCD monitor and hood deployed all the time is just not practical. I agree it does have very impressive specs but at this point of my life I really have no use for footage authentication via embedded digital signatures.
Doug, safe travels. |
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Here is Zacuto’s solution to the lack of an EVF.
https://www.cined.com/zacuto-z-finde...sony-pxw-z300/ |
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And that adds another $500. to the price.
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Doug, after reading some comments from people on another site, what are your thoughts about the clarity of the lens in this camera when it comes to the 4K resolution? And is this "the same sensor block" etc or are there new developments or advances here that are being brought to market?
Also, I note that this camera doesn't use the expensive SxS cards for storage media. Is this from your feedback to Sony engineers? Andrew |
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Everything I've seen from the camera looks great, but since I have not had the chance to put it through it's paces on my own, I will defer all specific comments about it until I have the opportunity to do so. In particular, I look forward to comparing it head to head with my Z280 and Z200. Unfortunately, as I have noted before, I am on the road until November and do not foresee getting my hands on my Z300 until then. Rotten timing for the release of a new camera.
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Any chance the camera will be able to record 32-bit float audio?
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If you don't see it in the product specs, then I'd say no. As far as I know, there are no Sony cameras that have that feature, nor do I think it is it necessary.
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So, how's that review coming along? :-)
Andrew |
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I had the opportunity to check out the camera at last month's NABNY show. The camera appears to be designed for the broadcast industry. As a general purpose camcorder it is way overpriced. B&H lists the camera for $8,299 whereas Adorama is listing the camera for $9,999. The Sony rep told me the camera should start shipping in mid November.
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I'm still not ready to post a review or any serious comments, but I will say that I absolutely hate not having a EVF. Reading glasses on . . . glasses off . . . glasess on . . . glasses off . . . over and over again . . . what a pain in the ass for those of us who need readers. I'll be working on a couple of possible solutions in the next couple days. Z300 / Blue Origin rocket launch: https://youtu.be/TKUTgHGx6IA?si=P0XC5s1zeyLV8YWr |
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I agree these cameras targeted at broadcasters types where money isn’t a concern.
I’m sure it’s a good camera but nothing I’d pay for. Camcorders haven’t improved the last 8 yrs but the prices have remained the same. |
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A Sony engineer told me once that the accuracy required in manufacturing the three sensor prism and the 1µm (1,000,000 mm) mounting accuracy of mounting the sensors to it is the most costly component of their camera manufacturing. That it costs more for that assembly than the entire cost of manufacturing most of their single sensor cameras. So I can understand the end prices they ask.
Like most three chippers with high density photosites,(4K) small sensor 1/2" cameras, you really do need to work wide open to F/4.0 to get the optimum optical performance out of them. That is purely down to the laws of optical physics. Because of the sensor aesthetics, being smaller and not having the ability to control DOF as easily along with their higher retail prices, three chippers seem have fallen out of favour. But there is still an industry need for them for certain types of jobs. Like Doug said, though. I bemoan the fact that these newer models don't have viewfinders. Regardless of how good a camera's AF is, I still want a VF. The first thing I did with the FX6 was to buy A Sony loupe and an after market VF support for it. Doug. I use some flip ups like these. Quicker and avoids glasses on/off all the time. Variable mag strengths. 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0. https://urli.info/1joyF Chris Young |
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Doug, I'm not sure if you are aware David Winters Cranky Cameraman YouTube channel. David is a
broadcast, documentary, corporate shooter who used to shoot with an ARRI Amira but these days shoots primarily with Sony cameras, FX6, FX9, Burano. In this video, David mentions he just bought a Z200 for a job and has some questions about the camera. Doug, I'm sure you can help David out. https://youtu.be/lLb6DLMD9zs?si=t2nhLdw0YcpTlaH Thanks. |
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Just for comparison, I normally use 1.5 for computers and 2.0 for books, newspaper, iPad, etc. |
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I found these glasses that have the flip-up built right into the frames, so there's no glass at all when you don't need magnification. They come four to a pack, but they are all the same strength, so I guess I’ll need two sets of four glasses because I need 2.5 for tripod and 3.0 for handheld.
One pack @ 3.0x One pack @ 2.5x I don't mind getting four each because I'm sure they are going to get broken pretty quickly -- just like all my other reading glasses. And won't I look stylish now!!! |
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Quote Pete: "Camcorders haven’t improved the last 8 yrs but the prices have remained the same."
I couldn't disagree more. If that's what you think, you're not paying very close attention to how camcorders have evolved. AF is absolutely amazing with the newest Sonys. Plus improved codecs, four channels of audio, MI-Shoes for audio, Clear Image Zoom, better color, Digital Extenders, 30+ seconds of picture cache, higher frame rates in 4K for slow-mo, noise-free images even at high ISOs, better servo zoom, better/cheaper memory card choices even with data-intensive codecs, better white balance, variable ND filters, auto-framing, 12G SDI and HDMI simultaneously, a ton of really advanced wireless and network features, brighter and sharper LCD panels, excellent OLED viewfinders (for those cameras that have a EVF), etc. I'm sure I could think of even more advancements if I had more time. To say that camcorders "haven't improved the last 8 years" is totally wrong, and not even open to a difference of opinion. If those advancement don't matter to you, that is fine. But to those of us who prefer shooting with camcorders, the improvements are amazing. |
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Live streaming from inside the camcorder itself is also pretty awesome!
Having people able to remotely retrieve footage from the camera whilst you are out in the field is also super handy. You could theoretically be leaving the camera on and this would happen whilst you are driving to the next job. (Disclosure: Haven't done this myself but I've read about the Sony-whatever feature.) Time is money, as Doug says. Andrew |
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When you say that the built in streaming is "bad" do you mean the quality of what is sent to the distribution system? It's always possible that camera manufacturers might have cut corners on the encoder for that, but it's not something I would have expected from Sony.
I guess my Matrox Monarch HDX encoder unit will still be an asset then? Andrew |
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I thought the footage was knockout good. I would prefer an optical viewfinder too.
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