Playing MP2's? at DVinfo.net

Trent O Connor · September 19th, 2003, 08:49 AM

Hi, not sure if this post is in the right area but here goes....

I filmed an advert for someone and asked them to put it on CD and send it to me. They have done so but it's an Mp2 file. Someone has written on the disk 'MP2 (VIDEO)'.
My laptop has Quicktime which just says a software something or other is missing and in Media Player it says 'Error' when trying to load codecs. I know it worked on someones pc tho using media player.
Anyone know what I need to do or download to get it to work?
Much appreciated.

Brian M. Dickman · September 19th, 2003, 09:28 AM

It's probably an MPEG2 file, but Media Player may be getting confused because .mp2 is the extension for MPEG1 Layer II audio, a close relative to mp3. Try renaming the file to .mpeg or .mpg and see if it works better. The other likely possibility is you just don't have any mpeg2 decoders (codecs) on your system for Media Player or Quicktime (that would be what quicktime was complaining about missing). Try grabbing the latest codec pack from MS or Apple.

Trent O Connor · September 19th, 2003, 09:34 AM

Hi, thanx for the reply.

I tried renaming but it didnt work.
After codec error it plays a cut up version of the music but instead of the advert visually it just plays 'ambient' instead. A sort of blue flame type thing.
I'd never even heard of codecs so i'll try loading some from Microsoft

Trent O Connor · September 19th, 2003, 10:55 AM

Download some codecs sounded easier than it is.

I fristly checked i have the latest media player so i downloaded media player 9.
then i downloaded 'windows media video vcm setup application' and 'WM9codecs'. once downloaded i clicked on them and pressed install which it said it'd done.
loaded the file up again and it still said the same.
it seems to try and retrieve codecs in media player but after 3 goes says error. it then loads the music but too quickly and jerky and theres no visual.
can anyone help me locate what im supposed to load please as ive seen it work on someone elses machine but just cant get it workin on mine,

thanx

Jake Russell · September 21st, 2003, 02:33 AM

If you want to play mpeg-2 in quicktime you have to buy the playback component:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/products/mpeg2playback/

HTH

Jake

Trent O Connor · September 23rd, 2003, 06:53 AM

That Quicktime option might have to be done however,

does anyone know why two different computers can play it in windows media player yet on mine it still asks for codecs? ive tried downloading stuff (meaning: attempts at downloading codecs), upgrading media player to version 9 and it still doesnt work. i downloaded DivX but that didnt work either.

Anyone know how I can get it to work in windows media player? if i download media player, do i still need to find these codecs?

any help would b great.

Trent O Connor · September 23rd, 2003, 07:00 AM

Just wondering out loud. If I can get it to work on my mates laptop, could he then rewrite it onto another cd in another format?
is this possible?

Jake Russell · September 23rd, 2003, 07:44 AM

Cleaner can open mp2(this is not mpeg-2 by the way) and encode to another format.

http://www.s-typy.com/videoviewer.html Should help you to read the file.
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/do...s/besweet.html can convert the file.

Look at the tools here for more help, loads of tools & advice:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

Try Windows Media Player v.6.4 also.

HTH

Jake

Oh and maybe try changing the extention to mov or mpg or something cause I know that works for something but can't remember what right now as Lingo scripts are making my mind fuzzy.... maybe that was vob to mov... hmmmm worth a try if all else fails I guess.

Trent O Connor · September 23rd, 2003, 03:19 PM

Ok, ive tried downloading various software from the websites you provided, cheers for that. I couldnt get any of them to play my cd tho. or the file when placed off my cd and on to my HD.

Another mates lapton played it fine. In the same media player as I have?
On his, media player loads and straight away says 'playing'.
on my sisters it says something like 'media changing' or something similar and it plays.

Mine Windows Media Player loads up and in the bottom left of the screen it reads:

'Opening media' then....
'connecting to codec server'
'sending request for codec...'
'connecting...' etc 5 times or so and then says
'Error downloading codec'.

It then plays the audio of the file but too quickly and the 'visualization: Ambiece: Niagara' plays.

Ive tried downloading codecs, and various players. i dont understand why my media player cant play it but all others can

Brian M. Dickman · September 23rd, 2003, 04:30 PM

I suggest you read this link (good rollup of issues with Codecs and Windows, how to find one that you're missing):

http://www.updatexp.com/codec-for-wi...-player-9.html

Short of that (or in addition to), go get the GSpot "codec information appliance" and point it at your mystery movie. It should tell you the codec you need to get to play it (which apparently your sister's and friend's computers already have).

http://www.headbands.com/gspot/

Trent O Connor · September 23rd, 2003, 05:05 PM

Thanks for that Brian,

I downloaded the gspot option (thought u were joking at first) and it seems to list some audio details but no video options.

On render it says 'partial failure.' It says click for details so when I do it says:

The actual text of the error or warning is: 'lists a big file number/letter thing and says 'some of the streams in this movie are in an unsupported format'.

The following combination of filters were used:

It lists four and they are audio based. Audio source, audio splitter, audio decoder and audio renderer.'

I really appreciate your help. I apologise for being so awful with computers, just downloadin gspot is quite an achievement for me but now ive got this program telling me partial error, what do i do
with it?

edit: im presumin where it says 'codec: n.a; - this is where it should list the codec i need to play it?

Trent O Connor · September 24th, 2003, 05:13 AM

Just to update. I installed windows media player 9 for xp. i then downloaded the codecs for it. it still doesnt play and searches for codecs.

i also tried the download of wmp 6.4 as someone suggested but sadly once downloaded, it doesnt work. it say something about 'The version of WMP is not currently supported on Microsoft windows 2000 (i have xp?). A version will b made available at a later date.'

Zac Stein · September 24th, 2003, 05:34 AM

I find that PowerDVD will play mp2 files fine.

Try using powerDVD, u can download a free demo, just do a google search.

Zac

Trent O Connor · September 24th, 2003, 05:54 AM

Hey man, cheers for the advice. I'm going loopy trying to figure this out.
Sadly, I have powerdvd and it doesnt play it. It says 'A disc with an unsupported format in drive d:'

edit: dont know if this helps but before i move the cd's files onto my desktop, the 'properties' are listed as:

Smart 1.mp2
Type of file: Movie File (mpeg).
Attributes: 'Read only' is ticked.

Brian M. Dickman · September 24th, 2003, 04:33 PM

We already know your computer has the right audio codecs, because that's what does play. So we want to examine the video codecs this file is using.

Load the file back into GSpot. Before doing anything else, look in the top right corner ("Video") and note the "4CC" value. If this is an mpeg(1) file GSpot will not show anything in the video corner and should show the type as mpeg of some kind, but I don't think it is MPEG. So let's just proceed with the assumption that it's something else, like divx or xvid. I'm not sure if it shows you the codec name next to it if the codec is not installed on your computer. If it does have a name displayed, just post that back here, or do a search on Google for it and you may find a download site. If it doesn't list a name, look it up in the database by picking the View menu->Codec Database->Video. Then lookup the 4CC code for this file in the database, and report back what the name of the codec is.

September 19th, 2003, 08:49 AM	#1
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Playing MP2's? Hi, not sure if this post is in the right area but here goes.... I filmed an advert for someone and asked them to put it on CD and send it to me. They have done so but it's an Mp2 file. Someone has written on the disk 'MP2 (VIDEO)'. My laptop has Quicktime which just says a software something or other is missing and in Media Player it says 'Error' when trying to load codecs. I know it worked on someones pc tho using media player. Anyone know what I need to do or download to get it to work? Much appreciated.

September 19th, 2003, 09:28 AM	#2
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	It's probably an MPEG2 file, but Media Player may be getting confused because .mp2 is the extension for MPEG1 Layer II audio, a close relative to mp3. Try renaming the file to .mpeg or .mpg and see if it works better. The other likely possibility is you just don't have any mpeg2 decoders (codecs) on your system for Media Player or Quicktime (that would be what quicktime was complaining about missing). Try grabbing the latest codec pack from MS or Apple.

September 19th, 2003, 09:34 AM	#3
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Hi, thanx for the reply. I tried renaming but it didnt work. After codec error it plays a cut up version of the music but instead of the advert visually it just plays 'ambient' instead. A sort of blue flame type thing. I'd never even heard of codecs so i'll try loading some from Microsoft

September 19th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#4
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Download some codecs sounded easier than it is. I fristly checked i have the latest media player so i downloaded media player 9. then i downloaded 'windows media video vcm setup application' and 'WM9codecs'. once downloaded i clicked on them and pressed install which it said it'd done. loaded the file up again and it still said the same. it seems to try and retrieve codecs in media player but after 3 goes says error. it then loads the music but too quickly and jerky and theres no visual. can anyone help me locate what im supposed to load please as ive seen it work on someone elses machine but just cant get it workin on mine, thanx

September 21st, 2003, 02:33 AM	#5
Jake Russell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 177	If you want to play mpeg-2 in quicktime you have to buy the playback component: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/products/mpeg2playback/ HTH Jake

September 23rd, 2003, 06:53 AM	#6
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	That Quicktime option might have to be done however, does anyone know why two different computers can play it in windows media player yet on mine it still asks for codecs? ive tried downloading stuff (meaning: attempts at downloading codecs), upgrading media player to version 9 and it still doesnt work. i downloaded DivX but that didnt work either. Anyone know how I can get it to work in windows media player? if i download media player, do i still need to find these codecs? any help would b great.

September 23rd, 2003, 07:00 AM	#7
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Just wondering out loud. If I can get it to work on my mates laptop, could he then rewrite it onto another cd in another format? is this possible?

September 23rd, 2003, 07:44 AM	#8
Jake Russell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 177	Cleaner can open mp2(this is not mpeg-2 by the way) and encode to another format. http://www.s-typy.com/videoviewer.html Should help you to read the file. http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/do...s/besweet.html can convert the file. Look at the tools here for more help, loads of tools & advice: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/ Try Windows Media Player v.6.4 also. HTH Jake Oh and maybe try changing the extention to mov or mpg or something cause I know that works for something but can't remember what right now as Lingo scripts are making my mind fuzzy.... maybe that was vob to mov... hmmmm worth a try if all else fails I guess.

September 23rd, 2003, 03:19 PM	#9
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Ok, ive tried downloading various software from the websites you provided, cheers for that. I couldnt get any of them to play my cd tho. or the file when placed off my cd and on to my HD. Another mates lapton played it fine. In the same media player as I have? On his, media player loads and straight away says 'playing'. on my sisters it says something like 'media changing' or something similar and it plays. Mine Windows Media Player loads up and in the bottom left of the screen it reads: 'Opening media' then.... 'connecting to codec server' 'sending request for codec...' 'connecting...' etc 5 times or so and then says 'Error downloading codec'. It then plays the audio of the file but too quickly and the 'visualization: Ambiece: Niagara' plays. Ive tried downloading codecs, and various players. i dont understand why my media player cant play it but all others can

September 23rd, 2003, 04:30 PM	#10
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	I suggest you read this link (good rollup of issues with Codecs and Windows, how to find one that you're missing): http://www.updatexp.com/codec-for-wi...-player-9.html Short of that (or in addition to), go get the GSpot "codec information appliance" and point it at your mystery movie. It should tell you the codec you need to get to play it (which apparently your sister's and friend's computers already have). http://www.headbands.com/gspot/

September 23rd, 2003, 05:05 PM	#11
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Thanks for that Brian, I downloaded the gspot option (thought u were joking at first) and it seems to list some audio details but no video options. On render it says 'partial failure.' It says click for details so when I do it says: The actual text of the error or warning is: 'lists a big file number/letter thing and says 'some of the streams in this movie are in an unsupported format'. The following combination of filters were used: It lists four and they are audio based. Audio source, audio splitter, audio decoder and audio renderer.' I really appreciate your help. I apologise for being so awful with computers, just downloadin gspot is quite an achievement for me but now ive got this program telling me partial error, what do i do with it? edit: im presumin where it says 'codec: n.a; - this is where it should list the codec i need to play it?

September 24th, 2003, 05:13 AM	#12
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Just to update. I installed windows media player 9 for xp. i then downloaded the codecs for it. it still doesnt play and searches for codecs. i also tried the download of wmp 6.4 as someone suggested but sadly once downloaded, it doesnt work. it say something about 'The version of WMP is not currently supported on Microsoft windows 2000 (i have xp?). A version will b made available at a later date.'

September 24th, 2003, 05:34 AM	#13
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	I find that PowerDVD will play mp2 files fine. Try using powerDVD, u can download a free demo, just do a google search. Zac

September 24th, 2003, 05:54 AM	#14
Trent O Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 94	Hey man, cheers for the advice. I'm going loopy trying to figure this out. Sadly, I have powerdvd and it doesnt play it. It says 'A disc with an unsupported format in drive d:' edit: dont know if this helps but before i move the cd's files onto my desktop, the 'properties' are listed as: Smart 1.mp2 Type of file: Movie File (mpeg). Attributes: 'Read only' is ticked.

September 24th, 2003, 04:33 PM	#15
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	We already know your computer has the right audio codecs, because that's what does play. So we want to examine the video codecs this file is using. Load the file back into GSpot. Before doing anything else, look in the top right corner ("Video") and note the "4CC" value. If this is an mpeg(1) file GSpot will not show anything in the video corner and should show the type as mpeg of some kind, but I don't think it is MPEG. So let's just proceed with the assumption that it's something else, like divx or xvid. I'm not sure if it shows you the codec name next to it if the codec is not installed on your computer. If it does have a name displayed, just post that back here, or do a search on Google for it and you may find a download site. If it doesn't list a name, look it up in the database by picking the View menu->Codec Database->Video. Then lookup the 4CC code for this file in the database, and report back what the name of the codec is.