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Marcus Martell · July 6th, 2009, 03:15 AM

Hi guys, i wanted to know your opinion on the moves Pan & tilt on the historical picture(of war for example).Any video example?The movement should start at hte beginning and finish at the end(keyframing) of the pic or should end a little bit early?
Thank a lot

MM

Boudewijn de Kemp · July 6th, 2009, 03:37 AM

I think it all depends on the amount of pictures you will use in a sequence.
If every pictures is moving all the time and there are alot, I usually tend to get a little sea sick while watching it.
If you want to see a good way for incorporating stills into a documentary, may I suggest watching the Dogtown docu. Loved the way they made their stills dynamic.

Doug Bennett · July 6th, 2009, 07:24 AM

Check out Ken Burns "Civil War". In the US pan and scan of photos is referred to as "Burns effect". The basic convention with regard to frame movement, assuming you want an invisible cut: Match the movement/motion blur in the last frames of the outgoing clip and the first frames of the incoming.

Marcus Martell · July 6th, 2009, 05:33 PM

YouTube - Ken Burns Civil War 1864 (Part 20)

i was looking KEN BURNS stuff but i can't see the blur at the very beginning and at the end of the pics.What about his workflow?How many keyframe does he use on a single picture to obtain that strange NYPD BLUE effect on the pics?

thx a lot

Robert Rogoz · July 6th, 2009, 08:36 PM

Marcus, check the tutorial from Ken Stone's Final Cut Pro and click on Ken Burns redux. The last method is so easy (even I can do it), that it doesn't make any sense to avoid pans and zooms.

Marcus Martell · July 7th, 2009, 02:54 AM

Unfortunately it doesn't open it!I wanted to check it so bad...

thx 4 da info

MM

Robert Rogoz · July 8th, 2009, 12:08 AM

It's the 4th one from the top. I don't know why would not open?

Marcus Martell · July 8th, 2009, 02:10 PM

buffer issues.I did see it,nice tut but nohing compared to ken burns shaky effect.right?

July 6th, 2009, 03:15 AM	#1
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Historical picture in docs Hi guys, i wanted to know your opinion on the moves Pan & tilt on the historical picture(of war for example).Any video example?The movement should start at hte beginning and finish at the end(keyframing) of the pic or should end a little bit early? Thank a lot MM

July 6th, 2009, 03:37 AM	#2
Boudewijn de Kemp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 63	I think it all depends on the amount of pictures you will use in a sequence. If every pictures is moving all the time and there are alot, I usually tend to get a little sea sick while watching it. If you want to see a good way for incorporating stills into a documentary, may I suggest watching the Dogtown docu. Loved the way they made their stills dynamic.

July 6th, 2009, 07:24 AM	#3
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	Check out Ken Burns "Civil War". In the US pan and scan of photos is referred to as "Burns effect". The basic convention with regard to frame movement, assuming you want an invisible cut: Match the movement/motion blur in the last frames of the outgoing clip and the first frames of the incoming.

July 6th, 2009, 05:33 PM	#4
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	YouTube - Ken Burns Civil War 1864 (Part 20) i was looking KEN BURNS stuff but i can't see the blur at the very beginning and at the end of the pics.What about his workflow?How many keyframe does he use on a single picture to obtain that strange NYPD BLUE effect on the pics? thx a lot

July 6th, 2009, 08:36 PM	#5
Robert Rogoz Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 457	Marcus, check the tutorial from Ken Stone's Final Cut Pro and click on Ken Burns redux. The last method is so easy (even I can do it), that it doesn't make any sense to avoid pans and zooms.

July 7th, 2009, 02:54 AM	#6
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Unfortunately it doesn't open it!I wanted to check it so bad... thx 4 da info MM

July 8th, 2009, 12:08 AM	#7
Robert Rogoz Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 457	It's the 4th one from the top. I don't know why would not open?

July 8th, 2009, 02:10 PM	#8
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	buffer issues.I did see it,nice tut but nohing compared to ken burns shaky effect.right?