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Pete Cofrancesco September 1st, 2008 03:27 PM

Watershield DVDs
 
I'm getting ready to put in an order for more printable dvds. In the past I had got standard printable media but I'm thinking of getting "Watershield" discs. Are these really water proof and do they decrease the image quality of the print? Btw, I'm using an Epson R800 and I'm not even sure the ink is waterproof. If that is the case then it wouldn't matter what media it is printed on.

I decided to test one of my printed disc by running it under the facet and I was shocked to see the ink immediately wash off. Anyways I think that clients wouldn't be to happy if they got something on it and it ruined the disc. I could spray them with a clear coat but I'd rather avoid that if possible.

Don Bloom September 1st, 2008 03:35 PM

I really don't know if they're "waterproof" as I try not to spill water on them BUT I do use the TY watershield discs with an Epson R200 and all I can say is they look great. A nice glossy finish colors look wonderful and better detail than the non glossy discs I used to use.

Just my opinion from using them for a while now.

Don

Mike Gunter September 1st, 2008 03:53 PM

Hi,

I use Watershield and like them. Highly recommend them, too.

Mike

Pete Cofrancesco September 1st, 2008 03:56 PM

thx don, I'll look at the cost difference between my current media and make the upgrade if its not that much with the expectation of improved image quality not waterproof. Sounds like clear coat spray is the best way to insure waterproof. I don't expect clients to put them under the facet but its very easy to get your fingers wet and smudge a cd or if they have kids...

Chris Davis September 1st, 2008 04:39 PM

I always use Watershield disks, not because they're waterproof, but because of the much better print quality. A matte-finish disk looks like it came out of a printer, but the glossy look of a watershield disk looks like a screen printed disk. It has a far more professional look.

Josh Chesarek September 1st, 2008 06:20 PM

I like them. A similar thread has been posted here before which caused me to do this little test

Simple Thought Productions Blog Archive Water Shield Printable DVD Water Test

Pete Cofrancesco September 1st, 2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek (Post 927954)
I like them. A similar thread has been posted here before which caused me to do this little test

Simple Thought Productions Blog Archive Water Shield Printable DVD Water Test

you sir just sold me. thx

Josh Chesarek September 1st, 2008 06:50 PM

No worries :) Glad I could help. As I noted on my site I have had what I consider the best luck and colors by setting my ink level below the default on my printer. Its in the advanced properties but will vary with each model including that ammount of ink used. I felt my HP printer put out too much and going down two notches seemed to do the trick plus it saves me a ton of ink but still looks great.

Pete Cofrancesco September 1st, 2008 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek (Post 927967)
No worries :) Glad I could help. As I noted on my site I have had what I consider the best luck and colors by setting my ink level below the default on my printer. Its in the advanced properties but will vary with each model including that ammount of ink used. I felt my HP printer put out too much and going down two notches seemed to do the trick plus it saves me a ton of ink but still looks great.

I would assume because the surface is less porous in needs less ink. Btw, I didn't realize how little I paid for my current dvds (prodisc @ $.25) vs TY @ $.65

Josh Chesarek September 1st, 2008 07:27 PM

Yeah they do cost a bit more per disk. Its all part of my cost per DVD when selling.

Eric Darling September 1st, 2008 10:38 PM

The print quality is much better and the smear-proof quality is great. One complaint, though - blacks are not nearly rich enough. I can't seem to get them to look right. If you stay away from a lot of black, you'll be all right.

Shaun Roemich September 2nd, 2008 05:14 PM

Great demo video, Josh.

To go one further, the demonstration shows a person GENTLY rubbing the wet disc. In my test (which I didn't tape), I VIGOROUSLY rubbed my test disc after a one hour "drying" period and got zero runs. Amazing product. I don't offer Watershield yet in my business because I'm sitting on nearly 1000 T-Y NON-WS DVD-Rs I need to get rid of first and secondly, I LIKE the matte finish of the normal ones.

Josh Chesarek September 3rd, 2008 04:46 AM

yeah, we didnt go too crazy on the scrubbing but I think we could of. Either way it was pretty obvious that the DVD was abused way more than I would allow a typical customer to do and it survived :)


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