It's true the 24P HDV setting only comes up with 5.1.2. We bought the crossgrade, installed it, then downloaded the free upgrade to 5.1.2 and it works great.

- and support on iPhone will be unleashed next! ;-)

How about FCP6.iphone? Edit on your iPhone.

thanks guys. Just i borrowed final cut pro 5 from a friend so i dont know if it is like an illegal software and if i spend the money on the 5.1.2 for 50 bucks I want it to work for my FCP. I hear imovie HD works with 60i on the A1. Is that true? I really just wanted imovie to work with 24f because now i have to completely learn FCP and get rid of all the stuff I know about imovie. Kinda bummed about that. Thanks though for the help!

$50 is chicken feed compared to the $4000 XH A1. Small price to pay for the FCP upgrade. It costs more than that just to fill the gas tank on my Sierra.

I can fill the tank almost 3 times on my Scion for that:).

Yeah, but you can't pull a 7,000 lb. horse trailer with a Scion. Not easily anyway!

True, but the horse could pull the Scion.

Now that's what I call economical.

imovie
 

i just bought the canon a1 i have final cut pro
however it is an older version
thanks to this site i found out about the upgrade and for $199 i am getting
the whole studio package great deal.
in the mean time i have used i movie capturing 24f 30f and 60i
and have had no trouble.
i am not sure if on playback in imovie it is true 24f but
the video looks amazing!!! I am using the B&W preset found on this forum
shot 24f its breathtaking
I am using the latest version of i movie and checking my mail every day waiting for my new version of final cut pro

Richard,
Can you name the steps you do on imovie because My A1 does not want to take it. I have to make it "dv" instead of "hdv" or something and it automatically letterbox's everything which makes importing take hours. What are your settings?!?!

imovie
 

i just launch i movie the latest version that is running
on my G5
I have my camcorder on vcr and plugged in via firewire to the
G5
Imovie gives me the blue screen "camera connected"
I than hit import and the video gets imported correctly
on the top of the window it even say 1080 60i
make sure you are running the latest version of imovie
no tricks it worked the first time
My final cut pro doesn't recognize the camera at all.
I just recieved the FP upgrade in the mail today and will try it out over the next few days
good luck

I don't use FCP, but I've seen several people on this forum mention it takes "too long" to capture downconverting from the A1 (well they say "import", but I'm assuming they're just using wrong terminology). How can it take longer than realtime? Clue me in please.

Bill

Yes it does.
I got a MacMini and MacBook Pro (both Intel) and iMovie detects my XHA01 without a glitch. I can use the controls to make the A1 rewind and such.

Yes it does.
I got a MacMini and MacBook Pro (both Intel) and iMovie detects my XHA01 without a glitch. I can use the controls to make the A1 rewind and such.

PS: I live in PAL land and the 50i and 25f get imported without a problem

30F in Final Cut.
 

I wanted to ask if you have any problems using the 1080i60 Easy Setup for editing 30F footage in Final Cut 5.1.2. I have done the same, but am worried that it is too good to be true. Thanks, Hugh.

I've done four projects now in 30F on a 1080i60 timeline with no problems. It looks and smells like progressive, so I don't know how it works. Movement looks a lot nicer on 30F.

I just shot with the Canon XL H1 both 60i and 24f...and for the LIFE of me FCP would not see this camera. The computer would, I saw it in the system profiler. But no matter what HDV setting I chose (I chose them ALL) FCP would not see this camera. SO I ended up capturing at DVCPRO HD via my Kona LH. But I wanted to see it at its native resolution.

Now, I did notice a little loss of detail at 24F compared to 60i. You guys notice that? And I read a review on CNET.com that says that shooting in progressive mode you lose HALF of your resolution...it throws away fields of information to shoot FAKE progressive frames:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Canon_XL_H1/...-31556313.html

"...the Canon XL H1 cannot record true progressive video in either HD or SD. That's a real disadvantage for those going for a cinematic look. The XL H1 does offer a pseudo-progressive shooting option, which Canon calls Frame Mode, in 30- and 24-frame-per-second varieties. Unfortunately, while Frame Mode provides identical motion quality to that of progressive video, it results in a significant loss of vertical resolution."

Now, this camera at 60i puts out AMAZING imagry. I was having a blast shooting my kids playing, and hanging out at the Griffith Observatory (in LA).

Still, I would liked to have captured as HDV, but I couldn't get FCP to recognize it. FCP 5.1.2.

Editing 30F in Final Cut 5.1.2
 

Thanks for the response. I have tried every test I could think of to confirm that the footage is in fact full frame once exported from Final Cut. It appears to be working perfectly.
The only snag I have encountered is when I first "Log & Capture" the 30F footage using the 1080i60 Easy Setup the new clip shows up in my browser as having an "Upper" field dominance. Does yours? All I have done is change the field dominance of the 1080i60 sequence to "None", and saved the configuration as an "Easy Setup". When the 30F clip ("Upper" field dominence) is placed in the custom 1080i60 sequence (field dominence "None") and is then exported to Compressor it is recognized as "Progressive" rather than "Upper".
Thanks, Hugh

Have you had any luck capturing and editing 30F using Final Cut? I tried using the 1080i60 Easy Setup and it seems to work well. When I drop a interlaced clip into the 1080i60 sequence the interlacing is very apparent at the edges of objects, but when I drop the 30F clip into the 1080i60 sequence there is no interlacing and the footage looks truly full frame. I wish someone out there knew the definitive answer to capturing and editing 30F in Final Cut 5.1.2.

Thanks, Hugh

24f And Final Cut 5.1.2
 

Hello
I have the updated version of FINAL CUT PRO 5.1.2 and this is supposed to support 24F. I shot in 24F and I have tried importing all my footage and it says its unable to locate it. It doesn't recognize it or something. I tried 60i and it worked great with my a1. I REALLY NEED 24F to work and was told if i upgraded to 5.1.2 i would have that option. It shows there is a 24F in the easy setup and in the audi/video settings and i selected everything but it still doesnt recognize it. PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ASAP BECAUSE I AM DOING A SCHOOL PROJECT AND NEED HELP ASAP! THANK YOU!

-Dean

Try your presets again. 24f HDV works fine on 5.1.2, but restart everything, change or reset all of your sequence, and file presets to hdv 24 and it will work fine. I'm having some issues with 24f SD, but that's a completely different story.

Canon A1 and syncing Final Cut -- HELP!
 

I have the 5.1.2 version of FCP on my mac and have the A1. I have shot in 60i and have uloaded footage fine. I then shot in 24F and uploaded my footage and noticed that the log and capture was a very long delay between the "log and capture" and my a1. When it was all imported the sound was completley off. The sound was awful and i had to move it manually but it still didnt sound good. WHY IS IT THAT IT IS NOT SYNCING CORRECTLY?! Someone help asap!

Did you know 5.1.3 is available?

I've not encountered any issues with FCP with 25F myself. What are the specs of you machine? What have you got running at the same time as FCP?

If you provide more information you might get a quicker answer.

TT

Nothing is running at all. I am importing 24F and the settings are on 1080p24. I dont understand. Everytime I import from my video camera while log and capture is on there is a major delay from FCP and the video camera. It imports out of sync and I have to manyally do it myself with the audio. PLEASE ANYBODY HELP!

Bad capture of Canon 24F HDV
 

I have the 5.1.2 version of FCP on my mac and have the A1. I have shot in 60i and have uloaded footage fine. I then shot in 24F and uploaded my footage and noticed that the log and capture was a very long delay between the "log and capture" and my a1. When it was all imported the sound was completley off. The sound was awful and i had to move it manually but it still didnt sound good. Why is it that it is not syncing correctly? Someone help asap!

Out Of Sync
 

Everytime time i import my 24f footage its outta sync. When i capture it from the camera there is a major delay that i notice while importing and when it's done. Why is this? I dont want to always have to match the audio up, i just want it to capture in sync. Can someone help?

-dean

Name the capture / editing program please

I have an iBook, the early white model, a small 12" one with a pretty slow processor by editing computer standards. It's not designed for proper use of FCP, but I installed it anyway just so I could experiment with capturing footage at home when I first got my XH A1. I shot in HDV, 24P.

What happened was that the footage was out of sync. If I exported a QT and then played that QT on another computer, it also was out of sync.

However, just as experiment, I captured some footage to the iBook, and then transferred it to the G5. It played in sync just fine on the G5. My conclusion: the iBook is too darn slow for HD playback. So, if you shoot something and it looks in sync when you play it back in your camera but not when you capture it, my guess is that it's your computer.

Im running Final Cut Pro 5.1.3
and my settings under audio/video setup are

SEQUENCE PRESET: HDV - 1080p24

CAPTURE PRESET: HDV

DEVICE CONTROL PRESET: HDV FIREWIRE

VIDEO PLAYBACK: NONE

AUDIO PLAYBACK: DEFAULT

help!

Okay, moved from Canon XH to NLE Mac.

This is now the official Help Dean Collins with Final Cut Pro discussion -- merged four threads into one.

how to capture Canon 30F in FCP?
 

I'm not seeing any 1080 30f capture in final cut pro easy setup. Any suggestions?

The 30f footage captures in a normal 60i project as far as I know. That's what I do and it doesn't require a render in the sequence.

That's interesting. Thanks, I'll give it a try.

FCE 3.5.1 and Canon 24f audio sync problem
 

I have been trying to capture from my Canon XH A1 into FCE 3.5.1. The footage was shot @ 24f. When captured the audio is out of sync.

I have been able to capture @ 60i with no issues.

So it appears that FCE does not support 24f. Is this correct? I have been unable to find a definite answer.

Thanks in advance.

Geoffrey S. Baker

AFAIK, FCE doesn't support 24p or 24f. In the past Apple had a handy comparison chart showing feature differences between FCE and FCP, but I can't find it anymore on their site. Older versions definitely did not support 24p. Regardless, I think this is one of the premium features they reserve for the more expensive version...

Canon XH A1 and FCP 5.1 - Capture Issues?
 

Anyone else have this combo - I recorded HDV in 24f on a Canon XH A1 and I'm trying to capture it into Final Cut Pro 5.1 on my Powerbook G4 1.67ghz. What Audio/Video settings should I use? I've tried pretty much everything but I think I might not have the combination of Sequence preset, Capture preset, Device control preset and Video/Audio playback.

The specific issue I'm encountering is that the video and audio are not synced after they come in and the capture tool says the deck (I'm using my camera as the deck) is 25-29% behind. I have 2gb ram so I don't think it's a memory issue. Has anyone run into similar problems or does anyone have any thoughts on how I could fix this?

I downconverted the video in my camera menu to standard definition and could capture the footage fine with basic DV NTSC settings, so I know it wasn't a tape issue.

Thanks.

-A

Aic
 

Are you doing the realtime AIC conversion? I tried that and could not get it to work. I entually settled on capturing straight hdv and converting with compressor.

Since 5.1.2, there should be an easy setup for 1080/24P - HDV setting. This is for the Canon in 24f.