Question About Fcp4 Academic at DVinfo.net

Michael Gibbons · January 21st, 2004, 12:59 PM

Yesterday, I ordered my G-5 (dual 1.8) and a copy of FCP4. I'm a student, so I took advantage of the academic discount- which saved me about $700 between the machine and the software. Today somebody tells me that because I went with the Academic version I will be unable to take part in the next upgrade.
Considering FCP4 is pretty new, I'm not too worried about this, but I am curious. Does anybody know if there is any truth to this?

Thanks,
Michael Gibbons

Jeff Donald · January 21st, 2004, 01:33 PM

In the past there have not been academic upgrades for FCP. You can upgrade to a full version of FCP for the difference in price between what you paid and the cost of FCP (at the time of the upgrade). The upgrade to the full version allows you to earn income from your FCP projects. The academic version of FCP's EULA states that the academic version can not be used to produce income.

Michael Gibbons · January 21st, 2004, 01:49 PM

Thanks Jeff

I guess I'll upgrade this summer sometime. Like, if I ever get a paying gig. Unitl then, though, I got it mostly so I could learn how to use it. Can't make any money with until I learn it anyway!
A couple of more questions:
What about using it to edit my own shorts and sending them to festivals?
Is that EULA posted on line somewhere? I didn't see it on the apple site, but maybe I'm not looking right.

Thanks,
Michael

Alex Ratson · January 22nd, 2004, 11:32 PM

I have upgraded the academic version of FCP since version 2 with no problem hear in Canada.

Jeff Donald · January 23rd, 2004, 05:36 AM

Physically, you can upgrade the Academic version with the full version of FCP. However, the Academic versions EULA does not allow that without an upgrade (via Apple Customer Care) to the full version. The EULA is contained in the software. It is one of the screens that you say yes to when installing the software. If you do not accept the terms of the EULA the software will not load and you can return the software to Apple for a refund.

The EULA may also be contained in the packaging as a separate printed sheet. To the best of my knowledge the EULA is not on Apple's site.

Alex Ratson · January 23rd, 2004, 10:28 PM

When I went from version 2 to 3 it was a true upgrade were I had to have the old version installed for the new one to work although when I went from 3 to 4 I did not have to do this. All versions were labeled Academic. Maybe it’s a bit different in Canada then it is in the USA.

Craig Weinstein · January 25th, 2004, 10:53 PM

Hello,

I will be purchasing a commercial version of FCP4 soon to upgrade my FCP 3 Academic.

What I would like to know is, can I accomplish this by simply purchasing the $400 FCP4 Upgrade software (non-academic commercial upgrade version) and installing it over my FCP3 Academic?

Thanks!

-Craig Weinstein

Craig Weinstein · January 26th, 2004, 07:38 PM

I suppose most folks will already know this but I'll post it for the sake of newcomers and searches.

I called Apple today and asked if I could use the (commercial) FCP4 Upgrade with my FCP3 Academic. Apple said no-- I would need to buy FCP4 Commercial outright to make the transition legally.

-Craig Weinstein

Jeff Donald · January 26th, 2004, 08:09 PM

If the version hadn't changed (FCP 3 to FCP 4) I think you could have upgrade to the full version for just the difference between the Academic and Retail version. However, as you pointed out, you'll have to purchase a full retail version.

January 21st, 2004, 12:59 PM	#1
Michael Gibbons Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Loveland, Colorado, USA Posts: 292	Question About Fcp4 Academic Yesterday, I ordered my G-5 (dual 1.8) and a copy of FCP4. I'm a student, so I took advantage of the academic discount- which saved me about $700 between the machine and the software. Today somebody tells me that because I went with the Academic version I will be unable to take part in the next upgrade. Considering FCP4 is pretty new, I'm not too worried about this, but I am curious. Does anybody know if there is any truth to this? Thanks, Michael Gibbons __________________ " When some wild-eyed, eight foot tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head against a bar room wall, and looks you crooked in the eye, and he asks you if you've payed your dues, well, you just stare that big suker right back in the eye, and you remember what old Jack Burton always says at a time like that, 'Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yes sir, the check is in the mail."

January 21st, 2004, 01:33 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	In the past there have not been academic upgrades for FCP. You can upgrade to a full version of FCP for the difference in price between what you paid and the cost of FCP (at the time of the upgrade). The upgrade to the full version allows you to earn income from your FCP projects. The academic version of FCP's EULA states that the academic version can not be used to produce income. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 21st, 2004, 01:49 PM	#3
Michael Gibbons Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Loveland, Colorado, USA Posts: 292	No income eh? Thanks Jeff I guess I'll upgrade this summer sometime. Like, if I ever get a paying gig. Unitl then, though, I got it mostly so I could learn how to use it. Can't make any money with until I learn it anyway! A couple of more questions: What about using it to edit my own shorts and sending them to festivals? Is that EULA posted on line somewhere? I didn't see it on the apple site, but maybe I'm not looking right. Thanks, Michael __________________ " When some wild-eyed, eight foot tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head against a bar room wall, and looks you crooked in the eye, and he asks you if you've payed your dues, well, you just stare that big suker right back in the eye, and you remember what old Jack Burton always says at a time like that, 'Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yes sir, the check is in the mail."

January 23rd, 2004, 05:36 AM	#5
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Physically, you can upgrade the Academic version with the full version of FCP. However, the Academic versions EULA does not allow that without an upgrade (via Apple Customer Care) to the full version. The EULA is contained in the software. It is one of the screens that you say yes to when installing the software. If you do not accept the terms of the EULA the software will not load and you can return the software to Apple for a refund. The EULA may also be contained in the packaging as a separate printed sheet. To the best of my knowledge the EULA is not on Apple's site. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 26th, 2004, 08:09 PM	#9
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	If the version hadn't changed (FCP 3 to FCP 4) I think you could have upgrade to the full version for just the difference between the Academic and Retail version. However, as you pointed out, you'll have to purchase a full retail version. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 22nd, 2004, 11:32 PM	#4
Alex Ratson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squamish, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 149	I have upgraded the academic version of FCP since version 2 with no problem hear in Canada.

January 23rd, 2004, 10:28 PM	#6
Alex Ratson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squamish, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 149	When I went from version 2 to 3 it was a true upgrade were I had to have the old version installed for the new one to work although when I went from 3 to 4 I did not have to do this. All versions were labeled Academic. Maybe it’s a bit different in Canada then it is in the USA.

January 25th, 2004, 10:53 PM	#7
Craig Weinstein Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Florida USA Posts: 35	Hello, I will be purchasing a commercial version of FCP4 soon to upgrade my FCP 3 Academic. What I would like to know is, can I accomplish this by simply purchasing the $400 FCP4 Upgrade software (non-academic commercial upgrade version) and installing it over my FCP3 Academic? Thanks! -Craig Weinstein

January 26th, 2004, 07:38 PM	#8
Craig Weinstein Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Florida USA Posts: 35	I suppose most folks will already know this but I'll post it for the sake of newcomers and searches. I called Apple today and asked if I could use the (commercial) FCP4 Upgrade with my FCP3 Academic. Apple said no-- I would need to buy FCP4 Commercial outright to make the transition legally. -Craig Weinstein

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