The NEW Final Cut Studio announced today!

Heath McKnight · July 23rd, 2009, 02:20 PM

I think Jeff said it best why the new features make it a worthwhile upgrade.

Heath

Blake Cavett · July 23rd, 2009, 02:39 PM

Well I like what I see so far. I wonder if it's wise or safe to upgrade to FCP7 from FCP6 while I am still working on a project.

Heath McKnight · July 23rd, 2009, 02:43 PM

Though I've had less troubles doing FCP and OS X upgrades than in the past, I wouldn't risk doing a full version FCP or OS X upgrade while in the middle of a project. Check this out:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/non-linea...ur-system.html

Heath

Charles Newcomb · July 23rd, 2009, 04:04 PM

You can go to the Apple site right now and buy it.

Which makes me furious, because well, consider this....

Taking the plunge and switching from PC to Mac, I bought a new Intel MacPro and a 24" iMac in December. I also bought a 15" MacBook Pro just last month. When I bought the first two machines, I purchased I-life or I-Work or something like that. One month later Apple is nagging me to upgrade to the newer version, which was released three weeks after I bought the previous version.

Anyway, initially I bought Final Cut Express to get used to it, and then a month ago I bought Final Cut Studio 2. When I did, I told the salesman I was considering waiting until the '09 version came out. He told me no one really expected it to come out until after Snow Leopard comes out, and at that it's not definite. So I coughed up the $1,200.00.

Now, a month later, Apple wants $299.00 to upgrade.

When I called Apple to complain a few minutes ago, the sales guy said there's nothing he can do. So I asked for a supervisor and got one. He told me he'd give me $30 off the $299.00 upgrade, but that's it, because I bought the software from a third-party retailer (Midtown Video in Miami), not from Apple directly.

My rant. Thanks for listening.

BTW: Jesse at Midtown VIdeo is trying to get Apple to be less anal about this. I can tell you he's been very helpful with every purchase I've ever made from them in the past; so I hope he is this time, too.

Michael Maier · July 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM

I like the speed change improvements. I wonder if I will be now able to do all my slow motion and speed ramps inside FCP instead of having to export to Shake.

Simon Wyndham · July 23rd, 2009, 04:38 PM

Don't suppose anyone else noticed the supposed native file format editing?

Andrew Wolfe · July 23rd, 2009, 04:56 PM

I like that new round tripping with Color. Keeps it simple.

Nate Haustein · July 23rd, 2009, 05:41 PM

Anyone see anything wrong, morally or otherwise, with buying Final Cut Pro 3 or 4 from ebay on the cheap, then using it to get the Final Cut Studio 3 upgrade package?

As long as its an official retail package it should work, right? New Intel machines will run the old PPC program as far as I know.

I have the FCS2 academic package, so updates are off limits for me.

Comments? Will it work?

Ethan Cooper · July 23rd, 2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Haustein

Anyone see anything wrong, morally or otherwise, with buying Final Cut Pro 3 or 4 from ebay on the cheap, then using it to get the Final Cut Studio 3 upgrade package?

As long as its an official retail package it should work, right? New Intel machines will run the old PPC program as far as I know.

I have the FCS2 academic package, so updates are off limits for me.

Comments? Will it work?

I see that as being a financially sound plan. Go for it as long as the copy you're getting is legit.

Heath McKnight · July 23rd, 2009, 07:42 PM

I had to buy Motion used years ago to get FCS 1. It was a legit purchase but I never used that one. That was when you had to have all the apps to upgrade to FCS 1.

Heath

Kevin James · July 23rd, 2009, 08:17 PM

Just got shipping confirmation, mine will be here in the morning (provided there are no hiccups).

Yes, it's mostly incremental, but the upgrades to motion and the FCP updates will all make my life easier and less reliant on 3rd party plugins. When FCP goes wonky and I have to trash prefs and stop using all my add-ons and such it really slows me down. This will alleviate some of the issues.

Migrating from Vegas I gave up a ton of functionality, this regains some of it.

I still expect a far more iMovie/Vegas like evolution of FCP in less than 2 years.

Andrew Stone · July 23rd, 2009, 08:23 PM

I was just reading that you can burn Blu-ray discs not only out of Compressor but from FCP as well. No specifics though.

Danny Dale · July 23rd, 2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Stone

I was just reading that you can burn Blu-ray discs not only out of Compressor but from FCP as well. No specifics though.

Check out the training video (output to Blu-ray)...

Ripple Training

Juan Todoli · July 24th, 2009, 12:01 AM

As a new user, I'm just starting the FCS long learning curve of knowledge. Just learning rip/roll, slip/slide tools (hehehe, do you remember your first time?).

I've paid 1200 € few weeks ago the complete suite & this new actualization cost around 300 (I want to die!).

As I have not to enjoy properly the new features as my newbie eye and poor workflow in practice could profit, may ask you guys:

Make sense await to Snow Leopard and a possible complete upgrade (not actualization, maybe 64, full Intel, etc...) properly & save money?

Andy Mees · July 24th, 2009, 12:35 AM

there's usually a 14 money back option if you bought direct from Apple ... if you're within that period then go for the refund, and buy the new FCS 2009 instead ... if not then I would recommend waiting as there is already so much for you to learn in FCS2.

best
Andy

July 23rd, 2009, 02:20 PM	#46
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I think Jeff said it best why the new features make it a worthwhile upgrade. Heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 23rd, 2009, 02:39 PM	#47
Blake Cavett Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Madison Posts: 330	Well I like what I see so far. I wonder if it's wise or safe to upgrade to FCP7 from FCP6 while I am still working on a project. __________________ I like my oatmeal lumpy.

July 23rd, 2009, 02:43 PM	#48
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Though I've had less troubles doing FCP and OS X upgrades than in the past, I wouldn't risk doing a full version FCP or OS X upgrade while in the middle of a project. Check this out: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/non-linea...ur-system.html Heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 23rd, 2009, 04:04 PM	#49
Charles Newcomb Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salida, Colorado Posts: 561	Final Cut 7 is out You can go to the Apple site right now and buy it. Which makes me furious, because well, consider this.... Taking the plunge and switching from PC to Mac, I bought a new Intel MacPro and a 24" iMac in December. I also bought a 15" MacBook Pro just last month. When I bought the first two machines, I purchased I-life or I-Work or something like that. One month later Apple is nagging me to upgrade to the newer version, which was released three weeks after I bought the previous version. Anyway, initially I bought Final Cut Express to get used to it, and then a month ago I bought Final Cut Studio 2. When I did, I told the salesman I was considering waiting until the '09 version came out. He told me no one really expected it to come out until after Snow Leopard comes out, and at that it's not definite. So I coughed up the $1,200.00. Now, a month later, Apple wants $299.00 to upgrade. When I called Apple to complain a few minutes ago, the sales guy said there's nothing he can do. So I asked for a supervisor and got one. He told me he'd give me $30 off the $299.00 upgrade, but that's it, because I bought the software from a third-party retailer (Midtown Video in Miami), not from Apple directly. My rant. Thanks for listening. BTW: Jesse at Midtown VIdeo is trying to get Apple to be less anal about this. I can tell you he's been very helpful with every purchase I've ever made from them in the past; so I hope he is this time, too.

July 23rd, 2009, 05:41 PM	#53
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	Anyone see anything wrong, morally or otherwise, with buying Final Cut Pro 3 or 4 from ebay on the cheap, then using it to get the Final Cut Studio 3 upgrade package? As long as its an official retail package it should work, right? New Intel machines will run the old PPC program as far as I know. I have the FCS2 academic package, so updates are off limits for me. Comments? Will it work? __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

July 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM	#50
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	I like the speed change improvements. I wonder if I will be now able to do all my slow motion and speed ramps inside FCP instead of having to export to Shake.

July 23rd, 2009, 04:38 PM	#51
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Don't suppose anyone else noticed the supposed native file format editing?

July 23rd, 2009, 04:56 PM	#52
Andrew Wolfe Tourist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 4	I like that new round tripping with Color. Keeps it simple.

July 23rd, 2009, 07:42 PM	#55
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I had to buy Motion used years ago to get FCS 1. It was a legit purchase but I never used that one. That was when you had to have all the apps to upgrade to FCS 1. Heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 23rd, 2009, 08:17 PM	#56
Kevin James Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 204	Just got shipping confirmation, mine will be here in the morning (provided there are no hiccups). Yes, it's mostly incremental, but the upgrades to motion and the FCP updates will all make my life easier and less reliant on 3rd party plugins. When FCP goes wonky and I have to trash prefs and stop using all my add-ons and such it really slows me down. This will alleviate some of the issues. Migrating from Vegas I gave up a ton of functionality, this regains some of it. I still expect a far more iMovie/Vegas like evolution of FCP in less than 2 years.

July 23rd, 2009, 08:23 PM	#57
Andrew Stone Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 975	I was just reading that you can burn Blu-ray discs not only out of Compressor but from FCP as well. No specifics though.

July 24th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#59
Juan Todoli Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gandia, Spain Posts: 68	As a new user, I'm just starting the FCS long learning curve of knowledge. Just learning rip/roll, slip/slide tools (hehehe, do you remember your first time?). I've paid 1200 € few weeks ago the complete suite & this new actualization cost around 300 (I want to die!). As I have not to enjoy properly the new features as my newbie eye and poor workflow in practice could profit, may ask you guys: Make sense await to Snow Leopard and a possible complete upgrade (not actualization, maybe 64, full Intel, etc...) properly & save money?

July 24th, 2009, 12:35 AM	#60
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	there's usually a 14 money back option if you bought direct from Apple ... if you're within that period then go for the refund, and buy the new FCS 2009 instead ... if not then I would recommend waiting as there is already so much for you to learn in FCS2. best Andy