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Heath McKnight July 25th, 2009 09:08 AM

Boyd,

Maybe not--I'm guessing Apple wants to save money on printing manuals and packaging. They're probably also depending on Diane Weyland's and others' books to help out.

Heath

Andy Mees July 25th, 2009 09:12 AM

No hardcopy manuals period, as far as I can tell.
Also no PDF I believe, just a Apple Help Viewer version ... and the online docs of course:
Final Cut Pro 7 User Manual

Ronan Fournier July 25th, 2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Liebergot (Post 1175970)
Do you have to do a full uninstall of FCS2 before installing the new version. Or will the new version simply install and overwrite over the old version?

It overwrites, but you should deinstall FCS before doing a new full install. Otherwise, you may have some problems with Apple Qmaster & Compressor ("Qmaster's file not found" when launching a compression through Qmaster). That's what happened to me and to a lot of guys (Have a look on Google).

Scott Balkum July 25th, 2009 10:16 AM

Wow, I see the academic version is priced at $899.00. FCS2 academic was priced at $549.00. Seems silly to pay $899.00 and not get any upgrades. Not sure about their new pricing model.

Cole McDonald July 25th, 2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Penetrante (Post 1175534)
Project based scratch disks. C'mon, Apple!

Absolutely. This would save so much time in my workflow when starting to work on projects. I spend too much time forgetting to reset my scratch, then having to re-render once I've figured it out and work at getting rid of unwanted renders in other projects... PITA! And if I import anything during that time...eeks!

Matt Davis July 25th, 2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Penetrante (Post 1175534)
Project based scratch disks. C'mon, Apple!

Agreed.

But a while back, I considered getting an Apple accreditation. It turns out that our standard way of working - ensuring the scratch disk is assigned per project - was not just a no-no, it was cause to not award an 'Apple Certified' whatnot. Thus, the certification didn't seem worth bothering with.

The Apple team were adamant about this. So I wonder if this will ever be fixed.

Jason Lowe July 25th, 2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Drews (Post 1176371)
Nigel - Mine came in a small box (like the size of 4 compact disc cases). There is a partition with 1 package contain the license, the FCP 7 Booklet (truncated) and the legal documents. The other partition contains the DVD's. The documentation is indeed electronic and Apple must have saved a bundle on creating these books- It's greener but I do miss them.

-C

That's exactly what I got from the Apple retail store this afternoon. You have to ask them for the upgrade version. Inside the sleeve is a very nice sturdy cardboard box, and the discs and docs inside that are in those fold out cardboard boxes they've been using for the last couple of years. The manual is electronic, and there's a brief introductory manual for FCP (doesn't touch on any of the other apps.

Heath McKnight July 25th, 2009 05:46 PM

Does that mean full versions have the manuals?

heath

Cole McDonald July 25th, 2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Daviss (Post 1176582)
Agreed.

But a while back, I considered getting an Apple accreditation. It turns out that our standard way of working - ensuring the scratch disk is assigned per project - was not just a no-no, it was cause to not award an 'Apple Certified' whatnot. Thus, the certification didn't seem worth bothering with.

The Apple team were adamant about this. So I wonder if this will ever be fixed.

Have they ever worked with multiple projects at the same time? and tons of removveable hardware for backup? Illogical!

Tim Dashwood July 26th, 2009 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron Fowler (Post 1175983)
The specs say to run Color you need a "Display with 1680-by-1050 resolution or higher" which would mean that I can't run it on my MacBook Pro 15" which really sucks...

I'm still running Tiger so I think I'll wait for Snow Leopard's release and upgrade everything at once.

That spec for Color is if you only have one screen. If you have a second display to connect to use with the scopes and preview then it should work for you just fine.

Ivan Snoeckx July 26th, 2009 09:25 AM

Is LiveType still included in FCS3?

Michael Liebergot July 26th, 2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan Fournier (Post 1176493)
It overwrites, but you should deinstall FCS before doing a new full install. Otherwise, you may have some problems with Apple Qmaster & Compressor ("Qmaster's file not found" when launching a compression through Qmaster). That's what happened to me and to a lot of guys (Have a look on Google).

Ronan, thanks for the info.
I was planning to uninstall FCS2 using FCS Remover.
One question on installing the FCS3 upgrade...

Does the upgrade come with a new serial number or do I simply use the serial number that came with FCS2?

I only ask because with some software such as Adobe Suite, the upgrade installer looks for a previous install of the Adobe software.

If FCS3 looks for a previous install of FCS2, and it's been removed from my system before I install FCS3 then there could be install issues. Just checking...

Thanks again for the insight.

Heath McKnight July 26th, 2009 11:08 AM

In the distant pass, you would keep the previous version on your system and the discs would just upgrade it. For the last few years, the upgrade is actually a full version of the software, and you should just uninstall the old version of Final Cut Studio.

Heath

Christopher Glavan July 26th, 2009 03:18 PM

Hmmm...

Still no firewire support for Color.

Still no funds available to provide accurate display of color grading.

Still completely winging my color correction.

Still can't figure out why Apple won't add this simple feature for those of us who aren't made of money/shooting exclusively in HD.

Pass.

Heath McKnight July 26th, 2009 05:11 PM

Christopher,

I recommend one of the MXO boxes:

Scan Converter - Output and Monitoring Device - Matrox MXO

It works with Color 1.0 just fine. However, check this out:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1151

Heath


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