Clients asking for WMV files for websites at DVinfo.net

Chris Westerstrom · October 20th, 2009, 06:23 AM

Hi,

I usually make mpeg4 files using H.264 for customers wanting website material. I have a few that are worried that their clients won't have Quicktime and are therefore asking me for WMV compatible files.

Is there a good way of doing this?
I usually export my Quicktime Movie from sequence settings then convert with Mpeg Streamclip using H2.64 should I do this and just make it wmv and if so, which compression settings are to be recommended in this scenario?

Thanks a lot

Perrone Ford · October 20th, 2009, 06:33 AM

I don't know what tool you should use to do this, but I can tell you that WMV (newest versions) are very similar to h.264 when it comes to bitrates and settings. Just use the same thing you would normally.

David Knaggs · October 20th, 2009, 11:49 AM

Hi Chris.

There's an application called DV Kitchen for US$79.95. According to its specs page, it can export in WMV (amongst many others).

Tech Specs at DVcreators.net

Battle Vaughan · October 20th, 2009, 01:01 PM

I think you might want to look at Flip4Mac, it works for us / Battle Vaughan

link is: Telestream Flip4Mac WMV - Overview

Earl Thurston · October 20th, 2009, 02:23 PM

Have you considered using a Flash video player to play the MP4 directly on the Web site? One suggestion is FlowPlayer, which I use regularly.

Jordan Nash · October 20th, 2009, 10:09 PM

I take it convincing all of their clients to install VLC isn't a possibility?

Sherif Choudhry · October 23rd, 2009, 05:05 PM

Hi Perrone, are you saying Compressor doesnt have a export to WMV setting?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perrone Ford

I don't know what tool you should use to do this, but I can tell you that WMV (newest versions) are very similar to h.264 when it comes to bitrates and settings. Just use the same thing you would normally.

Perrone Ford · October 23rd, 2009, 06:51 PM

No, I am not saying that. I've never seen or used compressor, so I don't know what the correct tool is. I don't have or use a Mac.

Battle Vaughan · October 23rd, 2009, 07:33 PM

Sherif -- Unless Apple added it in the lastest version of FCP, WMV files are not native to Apple products, and you need an add-on app to handle. My former employer provided Flip4Mac, which is recognized by Sorenson Squeeze and other compression programs. Never got on well with Compressor --- way slow and fiddly in my experience --- so am not sure if Flip4Mac will plug in to Compressor or not. But hey, why would Apple support a Windows-specific format? Way to much niceness on their part...:) / Battle Vaughan

Matt Gottshalk · October 23rd, 2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battle Vaughan

I think you might want to look at Flip4Mac, it works for us / Battle Vaughan

link is: Telestream Flip4Mac WMV - Overview

+1 I have had Flip4Mac for some time and it works great for this.

Andy Mees · October 23rd, 2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perrone Ford

No, I am not saying that. I've never seen or used compressor, so I don't know what the correct tool is. I don't have or use a Mac.

Hey Perone
You do realise this is the Non-Linear Editing on the Mac forum ? ;-)

Best
Andy

Perrone Ford · October 23rd, 2009, 08:54 PM

I only jumped in to make a quick comment on creating wmv files since it's something I do nearly weekly. Got dragged into the rest..

I'll steer clear next time.

Mark Joseph · October 24th, 2009, 08:01 AM

I had to resort to setting up a BootCamp WinXP SP3 partition to use Windows Media Encoder. I export using QT conversion from the timeline to AVI - DV PAL, quality high or best 16:9 for input into WME.

I have Flip4Mac on order (I work in govt department so jump through hoops of admin and weeks/mths for procurements)

Our new desktop role-out across the organisation resulted in only WMV8 video being compatible. WMV9 pixelate and display block colours. So, Flip4Mac will beof no use as I understand it does not support WMV8.

Sherif Choudhry · October 24th, 2009, 09:29 AM

I just checked, Compressor in the FCS3 package does export to wmv, it doesnt have an easy setup but google on the topic and there is lots of help, its seems easy to do, and i'll try it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battle Vaughan

Sherif -- Unless Apple added it in the lastest version of FCP, WMV files are not native to Apple products, and you need an add-on app to handle. My former employer provided Flip4Mac, which is recognized by Sorenson Squeeze and other compression programs. Never got on well with Compressor --- way slow and fiddly in my experience --- so am not sure if Flip4Mac will plug in to Compressor or not. But hey, why would Apple support a Windows-specific format? Way to much niceness on their part...:) / Battle Vaughan

Mark Joseph · October 24th, 2009, 07:48 PM

I can't find WMV options in Compressor 3.5.1. It used to appear under a QT export option even just in QTPro, however it was a demo ver that was limited to 30s duration - you had to buy the full Flip4Mac package.

October 20th, 2009, 06:23 AM	#1
Chris Westerstrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 259	Clients asking for WMV files for websites Hi, I usually make mpeg4 files using H.264 for customers wanting website material. I have a few that are worried that their clients won't have Quicktime and are therefore asking me for WMV compatible files. Is there a good way of doing this? I usually export my Quicktime Movie from sequence settings then convert with Mpeg Streamclip using H2.64 should I do this and just make it wmv and if so, which compression settings are to be recommended in this scenario? Thanks a lot

October 20th, 2009, 06:33 AM	#2
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	I don't know what tool you should use to do this, but I can tell you that WMV (newest versions) are very similar to h.264 when it comes to bitrates and settings. Just use the same thing you would normally. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

October 20th, 2009, 01:01 PM	#4
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	I think you might want to look at Flip4Mac, it works for us / Battle Vaughan link is: Telestream Flip4Mac WMV - Overview Last edited by Battle Vaughan; October 20th, 2009 at 04:02 PM. Reason: spelling

October 20th, 2009, 02:23 PM	#5
Earl Thurston Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Burnaby & Maple Ridge BC Posts: 289	Have you considered using a Flash video player to play the MP4 directly on the Web site? One suggestion is FlowPlayer, which I use regularly. __________________ Earl R. Thurston, Stargate Connections Inc. Made with GY-HD100: The Container Adventures: The Rescue

October 23rd, 2009, 06:51 PM	#8
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	No, I am not saying that. I've never seen or used compressor, so I don't know what the correct tool is. I don't have or use a Mac. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

October 20th, 2009, 11:49 AM	#3
David Knaggs Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 826	Hi Chris. There's an application called DV Kitchen for US$79.95. According to its specs page, it can export in WMV (amongst many others). Tech Specs at DVcreators.net

October 20th, 2009, 10:09 PM	#6
Jordan Nash Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Wayne, IN (USA) Posts: 85	I take it convincing all of their clients to install VLC isn't a possibility?

October 23rd, 2009, 07:33 PM	#9
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	Sherif -- Unless Apple added it in the lastest version of FCP, WMV files are not native to Apple products, and you need an add-on app to handle. My former employer provided Flip4Mac, which is recognized by Sorenson Squeeze and other compression programs. Never got on well with Compressor --- way slow and fiddly in my experience --- so am not sure if Flip4Mac will plug in to Compressor or not. But hey, why would Apple support a Windows-specific format? Way to much niceness on their part...:) / Battle Vaughan

October 23rd, 2009, 08:54 PM	#12
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	I only jumped in to make a quick comment on creating wmv files since it's something I do nearly weekly. Got dragged into the rest.. I'll steer clear next time. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

October 24th, 2009, 08:01 AM	#13
Mark Joseph Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ACT Australia Posts: 148	I had to resort to setting up a BootCamp WinXP SP3 partition to use Windows Media Encoder. I export using QT conversion from the timeline to AVI - DV PAL, quality high or best 16:9 for input into WME. I have Flip4Mac on order (I work in govt department so jump through hoops of admin and weeks/mths for procurements) Our new desktop role-out across the organisation resulted in only WMV8 video being compatible. WMV9 pixelate and display block colours. So, Flip4Mac will beof no use as I understand it does not support WMV8.

October 24th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#15
Mark Joseph Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ACT Australia Posts: 148	I can't find WMV options in Compressor 3.5.1. It used to appear under a QT export option even just in QTPro, however it was a demo ver that was limited to 30s duration - you had to buy the full Flip4Mac package.