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Bankim Jain March 4th, 2007 11:19 PM

Hi Clark,

I finally have go my FCP machine. its a gr8 exp to feel the MAC power & look as aginst the WIN look I have been with for all my life,. FCP poses a tough learning curve as I went thru the tutorials etc.

My quick Q is can i also have a A.Premiere 6.5 or later to run MAC machine for simple editing ....

Any future suggsetions for learning up the MAC thingy,.....

Victor Kellar March 5th, 2007 12:44 AM

I know a fella that runs Prem 6.5 on his Mac .. not sure which one, but one of the older non-Intel models. He says it works fine. But if you are going to dive into FCP then go all the way .. using it for "simpler" jobs will help you along the learning curve

I jumped from Premiere to Mac nearly four years ago .. no regrets here

Liam Hall March 5th, 2007 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bankim Jain (Post 636043)
Hi Clark,

I finally have go my FCP machine. its a gr8 exp to feel the MAC power & look as aginst the WIN look I have been with for all my life,. FCP poses a tough learning curve as I went thru the tutorials etc.

My quick Q is can i also have a A.Premiere 6.5 or later to run MAC machine for simple editing ....

If you want something simple you could try iMovie. Stick with the tutorials though, you'll soon find it's not that hard to master FCP.

Jon Springer March 14th, 2007 11:13 PM

FCP Capture Problems with JVC Pro HD?
 
I've been reading post from a year or so ago about the difficulty with FCP recognizing the ProHD stream resulting in lost video. Has there been any solution since then?

Sharon Pieczenik March 15th, 2007 09:25 AM

When you say ProHD, do you mean the tape type? If so, then that is the tape I was using and having problems capturing in 24p and 30p hdv. There is still no direct answer to this problem. Tim Dashwood has posted the below help for a work around solution regarding capturing 24p and editing on a 24p timeline. He has another step after MPEGStreampclip if you need to convert the frame rate - the step is to do that in Cinema Tools, then go to FCP. I hope this answers your question.


The Cinema Tools portion of the workflow you referenced is for conforming 59.94fps (60P) down to 23.98fps (24P) for a slow-motion effect.

It sounds like you just want to capture footage shot at 720P24 and work in an uncompressed format.
NOTE: 23.98 (aka 23.976) is the frame rate of 24P. For all intents and purposes you will never use 24fps in your workflow...always 23.98.

It seems you have done everything correctly so far, but I'll backtrack a bit for the benefit of others in the same boat.

You captured m2t files from the tape using DVHSCap (or HDVxDV)
You opened those m2t files individually or as a batch in MPEGStreamclip
You exported those m2t files from MPEGStreamclip as Uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2 quicktime and specified a frame rate of 23.98 in the export pane.
You don't need Cinema Tools because this is already 23.98fps.
You imported the quicktime files into FCP and are ready to edit.
...
Now you need to create a new sequence that matches the specs of your source files.

Hit APPLE+N to create a new sequence. It doesn't matter what preset you use.
Select that sequence and use APPLE+0(zero) to open Sequence Settings. (New Sequence and Sequence Settings can also be found in the menus,)

Adjust the sequence settings so that they match your quicktime files.
Choose HDTV 720p (16x9) as your Aspect Ratio and 1280x720 will be automatically filled in.
Use "Square" as Pixel Aspect Ratio. DO NOT checkmark Anamorphic.
Set Field Dominance to "None"
Set Editing Timebase to 23.98
Set Compressor to Uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2

Click OK and you should now be able to use your quicktime files in this new sequence without any rendering required. I hope your hard drives are fast enough for uncompressed!

If you plan to use this workflow on a regular basis, you can create the above settings as a sequence preset in Audio/Video settings.

Sharon Pieczenik March 15th, 2007 09:26 AM

Oh and unless you want a really big file to work with don't use the Uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2. Use AIC or HDV codec. I learned the hard way. But you might already know this.

Jiri Fiala July 4th, 2007 07:42 AM

Color and JVC ProHD
 
Hello, so I've got this shiny Mac Pro with FC Studio 2 for testing. I can see that I still cannot capture 720p/25 HDV into Apple Intermediate, because the footage is then 50fps and therefore plays twice as fast (this has been discussed here before).

The question is: since Color cannot ingest HDV, how am I supposed to use it? What is the most straightforward workflow for JVC ProHD 25p and Color? I really hoped that this will be solved in FCP 6, but alas, it isn't. Thanks for any tips!

Tim Holtermann July 4th, 2007 09:34 AM

You do not want to use HDV for multi-passes such as color correcting. Convert it to ProRes 422

Jiri Fiala July 4th, 2007 11:00 AM

...with Compressor, I see. I guess you're right with HDV, I would just like to be given the possibility. DV PAL is 4:2:0 the same as HDV and is supported. All right then, thank you.

Jiri Fiala July 4th, 2007 03:25 PM

Just to be perfectly sure: is it just me or has anyone actually succeeded to capture ProHD 720p/25 footage directly into Apple Intermediate? I would like to lose that extra converting step in the workflow.

Jim Fields July 31st, 2007 02:36 PM

JVC HD110U + FCP6, anyone find a fix for importing breaks?
 
I have the 110U, and FCS2. I am so tired of FCP breaking my tapes up into separate clips. Yes I uncheck make new file on break, yes my camera has a supposed firmware update.

Unlike the masses, I hate having each individual clip in my bin. I want 1 tape to be 1 clip, with a simple start/stop detection with markers.

Anyone have a work around?

Or should I just get rid of this camera and get anew one.

David Knaggs July 31st, 2007 03:33 PM

Hi Jim.

If it's irritating you that much, I would probably do the capturing outside of FCP (using free software).

If you capture with DVHSCap, you should be able to capture the whole tape in one go. It will capture it as an .m2t file. You can then convert the entire tape (as an .m2t) into a Quicktime movie using MPEG Streamclip to transcode it into your codec of choice. AIC is an excellent codec for 720p footage, or you could even use ProRes as you have FCS2.

I've given the exact steps for this in this post:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....53&postcount=8

The example I've given is for 25p and AIC, but you can easily modify it for other frame rates and codecs.

If you want to improve your capturing with FCP, Tim Dashwood made a number of (fairly) recent posts isolating the factors which can cause mid-clip breaks (you can search in this forum and the Pro HD forum). One thing I've noticed that can improve results in a lot of cases (but not all) is to make sure that the hard drive you are capturing to is fast enough and has a lot of free space to write to.

Jim Fields August 1st, 2007 11:08 PM

Well, I dont have 6000 clips, but in the course of a wedding, lets say I am well into triple digits.


I have over 100 hours of footage to dump next week, all HDV from these hd110U cameras, I dont want that bin full of 6000 clips.

Justin Ferar August 2nd, 2007 01:40 AM

Jim, the only way to get one large clip is to digitize either component analog, SDI or HDMI. In other words get out of firewire.

If you have the BR-HD50 deck then you can digitize HDMI with the Black Magic Intensity card ($350) using the deck's RS-422 for deck control. This is what we do. We then transcode the HDV to ProRes but you can choose DVCPRO HD or AIC for smaller file sizes.

If you want the same workflow as DV then you need the deck and a Black Magic or AJA card. And a fast, huge hard drive like the LaCie Biggest S2S.

Brett Sorem August 14th, 2007 02:10 PM

Unable to initialize video deck??? in Final cut with JVC GY hd 100
 
I am shooting with the JVC GY-HD100 in the video format HDV 720p30p. I tried to capture the footage to my G% final cut pro 5.1.4 editting system and I get the "Unable to initialize video deck..." I know its not the cord or the camera or the settings cause I just did the simple 720 30 p preset so it should work, but it doesn't wondering if any of you out there could help me out. thanks

-brett sorem

Tim Dashwood August 14th, 2007 02:36 PM

THe first thing to check is that the camera is in VTR mode. The red LED on the top should be lit.

You should then be able to 'refresh devices' in the view menu.

I assume you chose the 720p30 HDV easy setup in FCP. The HDV/DV switch on the camera should be in HDV position, but don't switch it while the camera is on and connected to the computer.

You should have deck control and the ability to mark in/out and batch capture.


If you get no response from the camera, then it is entirely possible you have fried the firewire board. You should quit FCP and use HDVxDV or DVHSCap to confirm if there is any communication with the camera.

See this post in the ProHD forum for more information on the proper procedure for connecting and disconnecting the firewire to the computer.

Brett Sorem August 14th, 2007 04:19 PM

got it
 
I just refreshed the device and it worked. I knew it was just something stupid cause I had some old dv60I footage that i was able to capture fine. thanks Tim for the help.go check out the trailer and the page for my first film at www.myspace.com/loaded_film thanks

Jim Fields September 19th, 2007 01:25 PM

Sony V1U will Play my JVC HD110U footage, but wont import in FCP
 
I came across this on accident...

I was importing footage shot with a Sony V1U (nice little camera if I might ad) into FCP, nothing out of the ordinary. I grabbed a tape shot with my JVCHD110U and put it in the sony on accident ( I have been working late late hours, I was tired) and to my surprise the tape not only played on the cameras LCD, but I had audio. However, FCP would not recognize any footage. I could not see, or hear anything in the Capture window.

Seeing as the V1U is a rental right now, and the HD110U is in service ( again, and again...) is there a way to get the footage shot with the 110U to import into FCP? I tried a few different ways, the Sony see's the footage as 720P 30 and says so on the lcd, all attempts at an easy setup of Generic, AIC, 720P 30, HDV, Sony HDV, 1080i have not worked.

Is it not going to work? I have some footage I should have dumped before the camera went to service, but then again, I am working real late and forgot.

Any ideas?

William Hohauser September 20th, 2007 09:54 AM

Sorry, Sony HDV cameras will play 720p footage from JVC HD cameras only thru the analog outputs. no FireWire.

Robert Rogoz October 5th, 2008 12:08 AM

GY-HD100 and FCS2 capture
 
I have really hard time figure out this. I was trying to capture footage from my last shot. This is the first time I am using the camera as a deck (I had an access to a deck before, not anymore). Anyway, FCP would not communicate at first with the camera. I check and rechecked. In the capture settings I was using 720/30p and "firewire HDV" as the connection. I was able to start capturing through "HDV intermediate apple codec". After a couple of clips I was able to capture in regular HDV setting.
First of all what is HDV intermediate apple codec? second- looks I have to render all the footage captured in this setting? Third- which one is better as far as quality? Fourth- why my computer did not want to communicate with the deck at first?
Sorry for a lot of silly questions.

Brendan Fisher November 24th, 2008 11:44 AM

I'm having a problem capturing HDV 24p footage from my JVC GY-HD200 into FCP 6 on my Macbook Pro.

When I let FC log and capture the footage automatically, it crops several seconds off the beginning of every clip. I changed my pre and post roll settings, but it hasn't made the slightest difference. I don't want to have to go through the tape manually marking my in and out points, but right now that's all I can do to ensure I get complete takes. Is there anything I can do to remedy this, or am I going to have to pre-roll 8 seconds of tape before every shot I get in the field, (which isn't always possible, or practical)?


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