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Rudimar Antonio Favaretto · February 26th, 2007, 06:28 AM

I'm editing HDV material in Final Cut 5.1.4.

To make the capture in HD with fire wire from a XL H1, every thing is fine, but when I try to make the inverse way I have some problems.

I can only pass the material to my camconder if this is in SD. if I try in HDV, I can only see one frame. For now its ok, because I still can monitor my edition in a canvas or a preview monitor, but I'll need put this film in a HDV tape.

Had some one pass for this problem? Do you know if is a camcoder configuration in FCP? ('I still can't see a Fire Wire HDV output option in my software..)

(editing in a FCP 5.1.4 , intel Xeon, with a DeckLink HD extreme card)

Andrea Beck · February 27th, 2007, 07:41 AM

Hi Rudimar.

Have you tried the option "edit to tape"?

Are you trying to record your movie in the HD format (1980X1080)?
If the aswer is "yes", I think is impossible to to that, since the HDV tape only accepts the 1440X1080 format or smaller formats.

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Oi Rudimar.

Vc tentou a opçao "edit to tape?"

Vc está tentando gravar seu filme no formato HD (1980X1080)?
Se a resposta for "sim", eu acho que isso é impossível, já que a fita HDV só grava no formato 1440X1080 ou formatos menores.

Christian Bertolini · March 3rd, 2007, 06:14 AM

I've got the same problem, FCP doesn't output back to the XLH1. What are the alternative options?

Thanks

Christian Bertolini · March 3rd, 2007, 06:17 AM

Also can I output back from FCP to the camera through HD SDI?

Andrea Beck · March 3rd, 2007, 08:07 AM

Hi Chris,

No. You cannot output back to the camera tape using the HD-SDI.
It is impossible to record true HD on that tape.
That's why we call it HDV. The HDV format is 1440X1080 and 4:2:0.
And the HD format is 1920X1080 and 4:2:2 or 4:4:4.

Your best option is to output back to the tape using the 720p format.

Good lucky.

;)

Dick Walton · March 22nd, 2007, 05:23 AM

So . . .it seems that copying a HDV/FCP timeline (1080i 29.97 YUV 1440 x 1080) is not possible. Is this correct?

If so, what are the options for going from the FCP timeline to the XLH1. Does the FCP timeline have to be in a SD Setup? What are the correct XLH1 settings?

Chris Hurd · March 22nd, 2007, 09:09 AM

I believe it's "Print to Tape" in Final Cut, isn't it?

Thread moved from Canon XL to Non-Linear Editing on the Mac / FCP.

SDI on the Canon XL H1 is an output only, not an input.

Dick Walton · March 22nd, 2007, 09:45 AM

So do you have to go out of an SD timeline?

February 26th, 2007, 06:28 AM	#1
Rudimar Antonio Favaretto Tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Foz do Iguassu Brazil Posts: 2	input XL H1 with Fire wire I'm editing HDV material in Final Cut 5.1.4. To make the capture in HD with fire wire from a XL H1, every thing is fine, but when I try to make the inverse way I have some problems. I can only pass the material to my camconder if this is in SD. if I try in HDV, I can only see one frame. For now its ok, because I still can monitor my edition in a canvas or a preview monitor, but I'll need put this film in a HDV tape. Had some one pass for this problem? Do you know if is a camcoder configuration in FCP? ('I still can't see a Fire Wire HDV output option in my software..) (editing in a FCP 5.1.4 , intel Xeon, with a DeckLink HD extreme card)

March 3rd, 2007, 06:14 AM	#3
Christian Bertolini New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 16	I've got the same problem, FCP doesn't output back to the XLH1. What are the alternative options? Thanks __________________ Christian Bertolini - Producer Melbourne, Australia - www.i-pumpkin.com

March 3rd, 2007, 06:17 AM	#4
Christian Bertolini New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 16	Also can I output back from FCP to the camera through HD SDI? __________________ Christian Bertolini - Producer Melbourne, Australia - www.i-pumpkin.com

March 3rd, 2007, 08:07 AM	#5
Andrea Beck Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil Posts: 40	Hi Chris, No. You cannot output back to the camera tape using the HD-SDI. It is impossible to record true HD on that tape. That's why we call it HDV. The HDV format is 1440X1080 and 4:2:0. And the HD format is 1920X1080 and 4:2:2 or 4:4:4. Your best option is to output back to the tape using the 720p format. Good lucky. ;) __________________ Andrea Beck vfx compositor www.farofafilmes.com

March 22nd, 2007, 05:23 AM	#6
Dick Walton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Concord, MA Posts: 53	FCP out to XLH1 So . . .it seems that copying a HDV/FCP timeline (1080i 29.97 YUV 1440 x 1080) is not possible. Is this correct? If so, what are the options for going from the FCP timeline to the XLH1. Does the FCP timeline have to be in a SD Setup? What are the correct XLH1 settings? __________________ D.Walton

February 27th, 2007, 07:41 AM	#2
Andrea Beck Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil Posts: 40	Hi Rudimar. Have you tried the option "edit to tape"? Are you trying to record your movie in the HD format (1980X1080)? If the aswer is "yes", I think is impossible to to that, since the HDV tape only accepts the 1440X1080 format or smaller formats. --------------------------------------- Oi Rudimar. Vc tentou a opçao "edit to tape?" Vc está tentando gravar seu filme no formato HD (1980X1080)? Se a resposta for "sim", eu acho que isso é impossível, já que a fita HDV só grava no formato 1440X1080 ou formatos menores.

March 22nd, 2007, 09:09 AM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I believe it's "Print to Tape" in Final Cut, isn't it? Thread moved from Canon XL to Non-Linear Editing on the Mac / FCP. SDI on the Canon XL H1 is an output only, not an input. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 22nd, 2007, 09:45 AM	#8
Dick Walton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Concord, MA Posts: 53	So do you have to go out of an SD timeline? __________________ D.Walton