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Gary Chavez · May 22nd, 2003, 09:27 AM

I'm shooting on SonyDVCAM 40minute tapes.
Most stories are shot on one tape.

Can I log and capture the entire raw tape, export it as a Final Cut Pro movie, burn it on a disc (will 40m fit on one disc in this format?), and then when I insert the disc in the Mac, will it open in Final Cut Pro so i can use the video to edit with as usual?

thanks

Rob Lohman · May 22nd, 2003, 01:50 PM

I do not know what disc you are talking about. But a CD can
hold around 3 minutes of DV footage. A DVD-R can hold around
20 minutes of DV footage.

Gary Chavez · May 22nd, 2003, 01:59 PM

was talking about DVD-R, thanks.
any archiving ideas? besides the tape it was shot on?

Ken Tanaka · May 22nd, 2003, 02:05 PM

Gary,
Just to clarify, Rob's notes are with respect to uncompressed DV / DVCam footage.

Tape is still the most economical and practical medium for archiving video. Also note that you only need to store the Final Cut Pro project file (and any ancillary graphics) to recreate a project from the original tapes. You will have to re-capture the footage from tapes but all of the cueing marks are in the project file.

Rob Lohman · May 22nd, 2003, 02:16 PM

Well... I was indeed talking about the RAW DV stream that is
coming off this camera. It isn't uncompressed ofcourse. It is
5:1 compressed to get 3.6 MB/s. BUT, I was indeed talking about
not compressing it further (what Ken is talking about I
think).

Ofcourse if you encode it to MPEG2 (don't do it if you ever want
to use this footage again for editing or anything else besides
viewing) and you can easily fit 40 minutes on a DVD-R.

Ken Tanaka · May 22nd, 2003, 02:21 PM

Yes, raw DV was what I meant. Raw DV is, indeed, compressed.

Brian Pink · May 23rd, 2003, 08:04 AM

i generally store the final render, FCP project file, and associated graphics on a dvd-r. then i write the render to a tape and label it "master", and i keep all my source tapes. if its a big project and i think edits are likely but i need to free up the hard drive space, i'll burn all the capture files to dvd-r as well.

May 22nd, 2003, 09:27 AM	#1
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	Archiving I'm shooting on SonyDVCAM 40minute tapes. Most stories are shot on one tape. Can I log and capture the entire raw tape, export it as a Final Cut Pro movie, burn it on a disc (will 40m fit on one disc in this format?), and then when I insert the disc in the Mac, will it open in Final Cut Pro so i can use the video to edit with as usual? thanks

May 22nd, 2003, 01:50 PM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I do not know what disc you are talking about. But a CD can hold around 3 minutes of DV footage. A DVD-R can hold around 20 minutes of DV footage. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 22nd, 2003, 02:05 PM	#4
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Gary, Just to clarify, Rob's notes are with respect to uncompressed DV / DVCam footage. Tape is still the most economical and practical medium for archiving video. Also note that you only need to store the Final Cut Pro project file (and any ancillary graphics) to recreate a project from the original tapes. You will have to re-capture the footage from tapes but all of the cueing marks are in the project file. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 22nd, 2003, 02:16 PM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Well... I was indeed talking about the RAW DV stream that is coming off this camera. It isn't uncompressed ofcourse. It is 5:1 compressed to get 3.6 MB/s. BUT, I was indeed talking about not compressing it further (what Ken is talking about I think). Ofcourse if you encode it to MPEG2 (don't do it if you ever want to use this footage again for editing or anything else besides viewing) and you can easily fit 40 minutes on a DVD-R. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 22nd, 2003, 02:21 PM	#6
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Yes, raw DV was what I meant. Raw DV is, indeed, compressed. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 22nd, 2003, 01:59 PM	#3
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	was talking about DVD-R, thanks. any archiving ideas? besides the tape it was shot on?

May 23rd, 2003, 08:04 AM	#7
Brian Pink Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 94	i generally store the final render, FCP project file, and associated graphics on a dvd-r. then i write the render to a tape and label it "master", and i keep all my source tapes. if its a big project and i think edits are likely but i need to free up the hard drive space, i'll burn all the capture files to dvd-r as well. __________________ This is the way the world ends.