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Bob Hart · March 20th, 2005, 07:07 AM

Does anyone have any certified 1/4" single bolt lightweight video camera mounting designs for camera types JVC KY-F50 which has medical certification and Kampro models 100-446 and 100-447, which do not, and cabling/shielding requirements for fitting internally and externally to the following aircraft :-

Cessna 152 Aerobat.
Stearman.
Texan.
Winjeel.
Victa CT4. (Millicer Airtourer derivation?).
Grumman Agcat.
PZL Dromader. (Cockpit internal forward, lateral right and external underslung rearwards ahead of dump hatch.)
Nanchang.
Robinson R22 and R44 helicopter (for interiors only).
Kitfox, Skyfox, Gazelle aircraft family.
Slepcev Storch.
Mustang (Two-seat version).
Bell JetRanger (Kiowa) helicopter. (Vertical down adjacent lifting sling.)
DHC Chipmunk.
DH Tiger Moth.
DHC Caribou.
Antonov AN2.
Antonov AN225 Ruslan. (Port main undercarriage door.)

Dan Diaconu · March 21st, 2005, 09:12 AM

Bob,
would pan/tilt via joystick or else be required or just the mount? Does the certification apply to mount or is it for camera models? Could an underwater housing substitute?(providing has a suitable mount?) I would like to help you if I could.

Bob Hart · March 21st, 2005, 10:33 AM

Dan.

Thanks for your response.

The mount would be a very simple fixed mount. A wide lens would be selected so that position of camera is not so much of an issue.

The mount ideally would be a US FAA or Australian CASA certified or authorised design such that it does not have to be re-engineered or back-engineered in order for it to be approved for fitment to an aircraft.

A mount design will likely be unique to a particular aircraft type and the method it is fitted to an airframe. Then there is the combination of mount and camera type.

The cameras are small camera heads which supply to a separate VTR via a S-Video cable.

There are also some issues relating to radio-frequency interference from some digital video-camera designs. The JVC KY-F50 apparently meets standards relating to sensitive medical equipment.

How the Kampros perform in this regard I do not know. They don't need to meet such stringent specs as they are intended to be fixed security cameras.

It might not be such a big issue to have an unattended cam running in a low technology light or vintage aircraft but in more sophisticated modern commercial aircraft, an unattended video-camera could become a link in a sequence of events leading to catastrophic consequences.

The main task for this setup will be for interiors of single seat aircraft operating in conditions where the pilot cannot be safely tasked with triggering the VTR, ie., water bombing of fires and much less, exterior shots from the centreline of airframe to observe special functions or smoke trails behind such as a banner-tug inflight hookups/releases or a skywriter or some in-flight characteristics such as wing flex in gliders.

Your input is very much appreciated.

Dan Diaconu · March 21st, 2005, 11:05 PM

Check your mail Bob (as I do not see much activity here).

Dan Diaconu · March 22nd, 2005, 08:42 AM

Sorry guys, your homework is not over yet. I have in a sense took the interest of this post and I need to apologize to Bob for that. I am willing to help whenever I can but I am not qualified to work or advise on the issue, so please, if you know or have experience, help Bob get his shots in a SAFE manner. All yours. This is what a quick brush in goggle brought back (if that is of any help):

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/contractors/interiors/airworks/

http://www.securaplane.com/pdf/GMCSds.pdf

http://www.securaplane.com/cameras.html

Dan Diaconu · March 28th, 2005, 09:44 AM

I do not know if this is of much help, but ...
http://www.global-dvc.org/html/Century.asp
If that is "all" they used to secure the camcorde, than I am too "old for rock and roll"

March 20th, 2005, 07:07 AM	#1
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Camera Mounts for aircraft. Does anyone have any certified 1/4" single bolt lightweight video camera mounting designs for camera types JVC KY-F50 which has medical certification and Kampro models 100-446 and 100-447, which do not, and cabling/shielding requirements for fitting internally and externally to the following aircraft :- Cessna 152 Aerobat. Stearman. Texan. Winjeel. Victa CT4. (Millicer Airtourer derivation?). Grumman Agcat. PZL Dromader. (Cockpit internal forward, lateral right and external underslung rearwards ahead of dump hatch.) Nanchang. Robinson R22 and R44 helicopter (for interiors only). Kitfox, Skyfox, Gazelle aircraft family. Slepcev Storch. Mustang (Two-seat version). Bell JetRanger (Kiowa) helicopter. (Vertical down adjacent lifting sling.) DHC Chipmunk. DH Tiger Moth. DHC Caribou. Antonov AN2. Antonov AN225 Ruslan. (Port main undercarriage door.)

March 21st, 2005, 09:12 AM	#2
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Bob, would pan/tilt via joystick or else be required or just the mount? Does the certification apply to mount or is it for camera models? Could an underwater housing substitute?(providing has a suitable mount?) I would like to help you if I could.

March 21st, 2005, 10:33 AM	#3
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Dan. Thanks for your response. The mount would be a very simple fixed mount. A wide lens would be selected so that position of camera is not so much of an issue. The mount ideally would be a US FAA or Australian CASA certified or authorised design such that it does not have to be re-engineered or back-engineered in order for it to be approved for fitment to an aircraft. A mount design will likely be unique to a particular aircraft type and the method it is fitted to an airframe. Then there is the combination of mount and camera type. The cameras are small camera heads which supply to a separate VTR via a S-Video cable. There are also some issues relating to radio-frequency interference from some digital video-camera designs. The JVC KY-F50 apparently meets standards relating to sensitive medical equipment. How the Kampros perform in this regard I do not know. They don't need to meet such stringent specs as they are intended to be fixed security cameras. It might not be such a big issue to have an unattended cam running in a low technology light or vintage aircraft but in more sophisticated modern commercial aircraft, an unattended video-camera could become a link in a sequence of events leading to catastrophic consequences. The main task for this setup will be for interiors of single seat aircraft operating in conditions where the pilot cannot be safely tasked with triggering the VTR, ie., water bombing of fires and much less, exterior shots from the centreline of airframe to observe special functions or smoke trails behind such as a banner-tug inflight hookups/releases or a skywriter or some in-flight characteristics such as wing flex in gliders. Your input is very much appreciated.

March 21st, 2005, 11:05 PM	#4
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Check your mail Bob (as I do not see much activity here).

March 22nd, 2005, 08:42 AM	#5
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Sorry guys, your homework is not over yet. I have in a sense took the interest of this post and I need to apologize to Bob for that. I am willing to help whenever I can but I am not qualified to work or advise on the issue, so please, if you know or have experience, help Bob get his shots in a SAFE manner. All yours. This is what a quick brush in goggle brought back (if that is of any help): http://www.aerospace-technology.com/contractors/interiors/airworks/ http://www.securaplane.com/pdf/GMCSds.pdf http://www.securaplane.com/cameras.html

March 28th, 2005, 09:44 AM	#6
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	I do not know if this is of much help, but ... http://www.global-dvc.org/html/Century.asp If that is "all" they used to secure the camcorde, than I am too "old for rock and roll"