Any HDV camera that records to memory cards? at DVinfo.net

TingSern Wong · February 23rd, 2008, 12:18 PM

I am looking for a small and light HDV camera (MPEG2) that can record on memory cards - not AVCHD (which uses MPEG4). I understand that all HDV cameras are tape based today. ... Are there any that uses memory cards (Compact Flash, Memory Sticks, etc) ...

Robert M Wright · February 23rd, 2008, 12:31 PM

They aren't what I'd call small and light, but the HVR-Z7U and HVR-S270U will record HDV to CompactFlash cards.

George Kroonder · February 23rd, 2008, 02:37 PM

Don't forget about the Sony PMW-EX1. It shoots full raster HD (1080@24p/25p/30p/50i/60i) on 1/2" CMOS ans records to SxS ExpressCard solid state memory and it is Sony CineAlta...

There's a whole seperate forum on/for the EX1 available here...

George/

TingSern Wong · February 23rd, 2008, 03:29 PM

Thanks ... but, way too expensive. I am thinking of something along the lines of US$1K to US$1.5K to backup my HVX202 - but these Sony's are too heavy as a backup. They are as big as my present HVX202.

Eric Larson · February 23rd, 2008, 05:56 PM

The JVC GZ-HD? cameras record mpeg2 to a hard drive. They have a mode that is HDV compatible.

John Bosco Jr. · February 24th, 2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Larson

The JVC GZ-HD? cameras record mpeg2 to a hard drive. They have a mode that is HDV compatible.

Can you say "Work Flow Problems" and "Poor Video." That's mainly what you get with the JVC GZ-HD7. Plus, a hard drive is much different than a compact flash.

Unfortunately, it's unlikely that you will see an HDV compact (currently consumer models) camcorder with a flash drive. Most companies have opted the AVCHD codec for that task. In the prosumer world, Sony is banking on a hybrid system (record to tape and flash) to give them an edge with their new Z7 and S270 camcorders.

In my opinion, I don't forsee a sub $2k compact HDV camcorder recording to flash. I think they want to continue to further the AVCHD camcorders for that task, and leave HDV as a tape unit for those who prefer tape over flash.

TingSern Wong · February 24th, 2008, 08:18 PM

AVCHD (MPEG4) is worse than HDV (MPEG2) ... I think I will definitely stick to my HVX202 in that case. No backup is better than a backup that takes bad videos.

John Bosco Jr. · February 24th, 2008, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TingSern Wong

AVCHD (MPEG4) is worse than HDV (MPEG2) ... I think I will definitely stick to my HVX202 in that case. No backup is better than a backup that takes bad videos.

Well, right now, anyway. We don't know what's in store as far as higher bit rates and better image processors. We do know that Sony and Canon are implementing a higher 17 mb/s mode. Of course, I don't think we are going to get away from the worse-than-hdv motion artifacts unless maybe the newer enhanced mode finally surpasses hdv, quality-wise. Who knows? Maybe one of these new cameras from Sony or Canon will be up to par. The only way to tell is to test it.

February 23rd, 2008, 12:18 PM	#1
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	Any HDV camera that records to memory cards? I am looking for a small and light HDV camera (MPEG2) that can record on memory cards - not AVCHD (which uses MPEG4). I understand that all HDV cameras are tape based today. ... Are there any that uses memory cards (Compact Flash, Memory Sticks, etc) ...

February 23rd, 2008, 12:31 PM	#2
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	They aren't what I'd call small and light, but the HVR-Z7U and HVR-S270U will record HDV to CompactFlash cards.

February 23rd, 2008, 02:37 PM	#3
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	Don't forget about the Sony PMW-EX1. It shoots full raster HD (1080@24p/25p/30p/50i/60i) on 1/2" CMOS ans records to SxS ExpressCard solid state memory and it is Sony CineAlta... There's a whole seperate forum on/for the EX1 available here... George/

February 23rd, 2008, 03:29 PM	#4
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	Thanks ... but, way too expensive. I am thinking of something along the lines of US$1K to US$1.5K to backup my HVX202 - but these Sony's are too heavy as a backup. They are as big as my present HVX202.

February 23rd, 2008, 05:56 PM	#5
Eric Larson Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arlington, VT Posts: 88	The JVC GZ-HD? cameras record mpeg2 to a hard drive. They have a mode that is HDV compatible.

February 24th, 2008, 08:18 PM	#7
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	AVCHD (MPEG4) is worse than HDV (MPEG2) ... I think I will definitely stick to my HVX202 in that case. No backup is better than a backup that takes bad videos.