AG HVX200 Vs HDR-Z1U Footage at DVinfo.net

Darren Kelly · February 10th, 2006, 07:02 PM

I did a side by side today of the two camera's and have a 30 second clip that is in a quicktiime H.264 800kbps .mov file.

If someone is interested, let me know and I'll email it, or ask Chris if he wants to post it here.

Picture quality is similar IMHO, but the P2 workflow might be better.

Cheers

DBK

David Saraceno · February 10th, 2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Kelly

If someone is interested, let me know and I'll email it, or ask Chris if he wants to post it here.

Picture quality is similar IMHO, but the P2 workflow might be better.

Love to see that. Hope Chris hosts it.

Your comment but the P2 workflow might be better is interesting. Better in what context?

Long form?

Archiving?

Delivery?

Reliability?

Economies

etc.

thanks though

Justyn Rowe · February 10th, 2006, 07:39 PM

How about the HVX would win on overall skillset: DV 4:3/16:9, DVCPRO25, DVCPRO 50,. 720HD (12-60fps), 1080i/p, timelapse, 10 second pre-record buffer, uncompressed 4 channells of audio, 4:2:2 for quality compositing, and yes... no digitizing.

Sony would be good for a wedding videographer.. but couldn't see it competing for much else.. and cerainly not for any of the extreme sports action video that I do .

Marc Olivier Chouinard · February 10th, 2006, 08:19 PM

Email me at mochouinard AT m0c.com (mZEROc.com)
I can host the files

David Saraceno · February 11th, 2006, 11:13 AM

How long have been using the HVX200 for extreme sports?

Chris Hurd · February 11th, 2006, 11:37 AM

Thanks Darren, if you can send it to me directly by email, I'll host it here at DV Info Net.

Chris Hurd · February 13th, 2006, 08:13 AM

Here it is, sorry for the delay... download first, save locally, then re-name ".mox" to ".mov"

http://www.hdvinfo.net/media/dkelly/...264800kbps.mox

Thanks again, Darren!

Mike Vogel · February 14th, 2006, 03:28 AM

This is the first side-by-side footage I've seen of these two cameras and I'll echo that they look more similar than I expected.

Good news, since the HVX is a little out of my price range when you factor in the P2 storage and the personal datacenter the archives would require.

Robert M Wright · February 14th, 2006, 05:20 AM

I can't seem to open that MOV file on my PC. Any chance of coverting it to WMV or DivX?

Does anyone have or know of a Z1 (or FX1) side-by-side with an XL-H1 clip?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 14th, 2006, 09:09 AM

Robert, do you have the latest Quicktime? It should open.

Chris Hurd · February 14th, 2006, 09:21 AM

Be sure to re-name the file extension first... from ".mox" to ".mov"

Robert Lane · February 14th, 2006, 11:53 AM

Sorry it took so long to respond...

This isn't a fair test for either camera; you only get one side of each scene from both cameras. For an accurate side-by-side comparo you'd need to see the exact scene in it's entirety full-frame on both cameras.

Renaming the clip works perfectly.

Ken Hodson · February 14th, 2006, 01:54 PM

1280x1080 resolution causing the compressed aspect ratio doesn't help much either.

Kyle Edwards · February 14th, 2006, 05:19 PM

Thanks for posting this. Looks like the HVX200 doesn't suffer from chromatic aberrations like the Z1 does.

Other than that, they are pretty close in this sample.

Robert M Wright · February 15th, 2006, 02:20 PM

I'm sure I am way out of date on the version of Quicktime that I have installed. I really try to avoid Quicktime. Almost everytime I dabble with it, it gives me a headache.

February 10th, 2006, 07:02 PM	#1
Darren Kelly Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 351	AG HVX200 Vs HDR-Z1U Footage I did a side by side today of the two camera's and have a 30 second clip that is in a quicktiime H.264 800kbps .mov file. If someone is interested, let me know and I'll email it, or ask Chris if he wants to post it here. Picture quality is similar IMHO, but the P2 workflow might be better. Cheers DBK __________________ Darren Kelly

February 11th, 2006, 11:37 AM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Thanks Darren, if you can send it to me directly by email, I'll host it here at DV Info Net. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 13th, 2006, 08:13 AM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Here it is, sorry for the delay... download first, save locally, then re-name ".mox" to ".mov" http://www.hdvinfo.net/media/dkelly/...264800kbps.mox Thanks again, Darren! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 14th, 2006, 09:09 AM	#10
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Robert, do you have the latest Quicktime? It should open. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 14th, 2006, 09:21 AM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Be sure to re-name the file extension first... from ".mox" to ".mov" __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 10th, 2006, 07:39 PM	#3
Justyn Rowe Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 54	How about the HVX would win on overall skillset: DV 4:3/16:9, DVCPRO25, DVCPRO 50,. 720HD (12-60fps), 1080i/p, timelapse, 10 second pre-record buffer, uncompressed 4 channells of audio, 4:2:2 for quality compositing, and yes... no digitizing. Sony would be good for a wedding videographer.. but couldn't see it competing for much else.. and cerainly not for any of the extreme sports action video that I do .

February 10th, 2006, 08:19 PM	#4
Marc Olivier Chouinard Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Québec Canada Posts: 26	Email me at mochouinard AT m0c.com (mZEROc.com) I can host the files

February 11th, 2006, 11:13 AM	#5
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	How long have been using the HVX200 for extreme sports?

February 14th, 2006, 03:28 AM	#8
Mike Vogel New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 7	This is the first side-by-side footage I've seen of these two cameras and I'll echo that they look more similar than I expected. Good news, since the HVX is a little out of my price range when you factor in the P2 storage and the personal datacenter the archives would require.

February 14th, 2006, 05:20 AM	#9
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	I can't seem to open that MOV file on my PC. Any chance of coverting it to WMV or DivX? Does anyone have or know of a Z1 (or FX1) side-by-side with an XL-H1 clip?

February 14th, 2006, 11:53 AM	#12
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Sorry it took so long to respond... This isn't a fair test for either camera; you only get one side of each scene from both cameras. For an accurate side-by-side comparo you'd need to see the exact scene in it's entirety full-frame on both cameras. Renaming the clip works perfectly. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

February 14th, 2006, 01:54 PM	#13
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	1280x1080 resolution causing the compressed aspect ratio doesn't help much either. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

February 14th, 2006, 05:19 PM	#14
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	Thanks for posting this. Looks like the HVX200 doesn't suffer from chromatic aberrations like the Z1 does. Other than that, they are pretty close in this sample.

February 15th, 2006, 02:20 PM	#15
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	I'm sure I am way out of date on the version of Quicktime that I have installed. I really try to avoid Quicktime. Almost everytime I dabble with it, it gives me a headache.