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February 3rd, 2007, 01:34 AM | #46 | |
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This product has potential. And it truly is an indy solution. Go ahead Alex! I am definitely going to take a look at this thread for the future. |
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February 3rd, 2007, 11:10 PM | #47 | |
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If you product gains momentum, please give CineForm a call.
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February 4th, 2007, 04:54 AM | #48 |
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This thread grows up.
Hmmmm, having Mr. Newman there, it seems an important card. The best you might have ever seen over your own thread. Over your own purpose, your own proposal. Take the chance. |
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I'm working out the power budget right now, a fair bit of the initial specs have already changed because of this. I won't go into details as it would become vaporware and bad business practice, so this thread won't grow any more from my contribution. Do email me if you're potentially interested in the product (as others have already done, silent readers who haven't even posted in the thread). I will maintain a private mailing list during product development, and recipients will be in on the current spec and feature set. |
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Alex,
We do have one of the best compute cycle per bit encoding times, so you are unlikely to beat us for quality/compute time at a given bit-rate, yet 1920x1080 10-bit is not easy as you may be finding. I wouldn't rule us out without contacting us first, particularly as a huge avantage we have over all other 10-bit codecs, we have ready-to-go real-time post production solutions, helping the marketability of any compressed aquisition product.
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However, preliminary power budgeting indicates I may have to go with a much higher bitrate, but real-time codec. I am contacting you regardless. |
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February 7th, 2007, 11:13 AM | #52 |
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I think you are on the right track. I think you should speak to Dave at Cineform before you make any final decisions... pick his brain so-to-speak. Their approach appears to be the strongest low-cost solution out there for cross-platform HD acquisition and editing for low-budget indie filmmakers.
I believe that the best approach for a low cost solution for indie filmmakers would be a cross platform codec such as Cineform. They will be releasing their Mac codec shortly so the codec will be available for the Mac too. The R&D is done. The base is growing. And the stuff works. Cineform tells me that they are working directly with Blackmagic to support the Intensity card with Aspect HD. Cineform's Aspect HD product will be available shortly with HDMI support, which I'm told will support 1920 x 1080 as well 4:2:2 8-bit. Supporting Cineform's codec would give your customer the option of working with Cineform's Prospect HD for lightly compressed 10 bit just like the Wafian Drive. And Cineform's codec allows you to keep the drive size smaller. I would like to see a recorder that accepts HDMI input and HDMI/DVI output. All new camcorders from JVC, Panasonic, and Sony will be including HDMI in their AVCHD and HDV camcorders. It should have Cineform's new HDMI enabled Aspect HD bundled with it (should be available soon. Speak with Dave about it). The Blackmagic Intensity card, provides HDMI output for monitoring too. Monitoring is a problem with these camcorders since when you use the HDMI port, the camcorders disable the component, composite and S-video ports on the camera so you are shooting blind unless you think you can see to focus high quality footage with a 3 inch LCD SD monitor. Just my 2 cents worth. Last edited by Dave F. Nelson; February 8th, 2007 at 08:31 AM. |
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Hi, can you guys provide input on this:
I've concluded that 1920 30p/60i is not technically feasible with current hardware/software in a fully mobile capture box. 24p/50i is, if only just...it really is this tight. I won't go technical on why this is so, my question is does this kill the concept from a marketing perspective? Your thoughts please. |
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Do you mean: 24p/60i or 25p/50i, bien sûr, n'est-ce pas?
Of course, not! See the new Canon's HV20 example. . .where's the 30p mode? There's no 30p. For sure, an overcranking capability from a 60/72/120fps would be gold but go to the 24p/60i or 25p/50i route and you should be fine. |
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I don't speak French but somehow I don't think I got my point across.
This is what can be done at 1920x1080: fully mobile (battery operated): 24p 25p 50i. tethered (with AC mains): 24p 25p 50i 60i (60i with different storage option) It's a power budget (and storage bandwidth) constraint. 60i is to HD what 29.97 is to NTSC. Same goes for 50i/HD - 25/PAL. In your particular case (Europe) I assume you don't care much about 60i. North American customers may feel differently. |
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The HVX200 and HD100/110/200/250 are native progressive cams and an obvious favorite of the indie film crowd and are most commonly shot using 720p24. How would your set-up handle this?
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I encourage you to email me and get updated on the current spec (codec, form factor, storage, battery, total weight) on the private mailing list. |
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By the way, is there any technical reason someone couldn't just make an adapter box which took an HD-SDI input and converted it to an eSATA output, then connect that to an eSATA card on a laptop and use the laptop to convert to a moderately compressed recording format? Why go to all the trouble of building specialized devices with their own processor when good laptops are readily available? |
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