Edius will edit 7D footage in realtime, full resolution?!
 

Grass Valley Extends Powerful Features of EDIUS Editing To Rapidly Expanding AVCHD Market

At this time, Edius is the only NLE that can do this. Free upgrade for Edius 5 users.

didnt take too much time reading it, but all i got from it is AVCHD and full res.
For me, ive been editing AVCHD w/ sony vegas for almost 2 year nows (generally at low res), export at full.

Anyways, back to the 7D. 7D shoots .MOV , couldnt find that or canon dslr in the article.

Still dont think you can edit .MOV raw...

Not sure what you can .mov raw, but just to be clear:

Yes, you can download the .mov files to your PC, load them into Edius and edit away, no transcoding or anything else is necessary.

I've done it.

But the 7D .mov files are mpeg4-AVC.

I'm using Edius 5.12 (current version) and can edit 550D files without any conversion. Even with colour correction applied, the clips still play in realtime, but heavier filters cause it to stutter. The new version 5.5 when it comes will extend that to allow more filters and PIP to run realtime.

Richard

What is your export option?

I also have 550d and a video 1920x1080 30p and I want to export to AVC/H.264 1920x1080 30p but Eidus prompts there is no this option.

Would anybody help?

This is correct.
 

If you tick "enable conversion" in the exporter plug-in, you can pick 1920x1080 29.97p.
This is the same frame rate as your 550D.

I have tried it, enabled conversion and it prompts AVC/h264 is not usable.

I have a 5D and get the same performance as Richard, the mov clips in Edius play in realtime. A single color correction effect can be added to each clip with no trouble but any more and playback becomes interrupted.

Andy, I'm guessing you have a progressive project setting?

That would explain why you are seeing the export message "AVC/h264 is not usable" since that format is usually for Blue-ray but there is no 30P, it's not BD legal, must be interlaced.

Thank you. I now know that I cannot choose h.264 30p. I need to use h.264 60i instead.

Just wondering how long this took? I'm about to get this camera and edius and wanted to know if it could be done quickly and on what kind of computer setup. Thanks.

I can edit 24p projects pretty easily mixing raw .mov's and raw EX1 footage, but don't expect this on a Core2 laptop!
Mine has dual Xeon 5550's and 10k RAID video drives.

What became sort of a mid-range 'standard' computer for video editing in the last year or so (most software companies post some sort of performance benchmarks on this) is the i7 920 processor with a minimum of 6GB of DDR3 RAM (12GB recommended) on the Asus P6T or the X58 mobo.

Both Edis 5.5 and Neo can smoothly edit 2-3 layers of Canon 5D/7D video smoothly on the mentioned configuration. Depending on the number and intensity of the effects you apply, this "smooth" may become less then... erm... smooth, but for basic editing it should fly.

Ervin,

On your i7 system, how long does it take to process 7D video from the timeline for bluray and HD web files. My current setup takes many times more than realtime to make h.264 files. Thanks.

Jon,

Sorry for the long delay... been busy with a million other things, but finally did some testing with Canon files. Export to BluRay 1080i took almost 2x real time, to BluRay 720P about 25% longer than RT, while export to H.264 640x360 pixels at 1Mbps video + 128 Kbps audio was just under real time; export to Canopus HQ at 1080P also just under real time.

Adding some relatively mild effects (color correction) did not change processing times; CPU usage was 60-80%.

I hope this helps,

The question is would you want to ? The purpose of an intermediate like ProRes or Cineform is to convert the footage to an editable codec. It a big and common step in the process. I look at it like developing an still negative, and fixing it in a steady state so I can edit and render and rerender it to my hearts content, with a pretty clear picture about the predictability of the filters and effects applied. I stated, I can edit h.264 in Vegas, but I choose not to, because I want a different structure in my editing codec. I am curious how those that are using this process feel about that predictability.

There are good reasons for both workflows
 

If all you have to do is a few cuts and color correction, then straight out to BR or DVD, there is absolutely no reason for waisting time to transcode to an intermediate.

Now if you're working on a complex edit that requires moving your video in and out of your NLE for graphics effects, heavy grading, etc. in After Effects for example, than yes, I understand why you would use Cineform or, in our case on Edius, the Canopus HQ codec.

Ervin:

In Vegas, I have been using trying out the Epic plug in for the quick cut purposes. Still involves transcoding.

I downloaded the Edius trial a month ago. Wish I had more time to play with it. It has a very nice solid feel to it. Seemed steady as a rock and I was impressed with output. I was running on a core 2 quad on an off the shelf Dell XPS 420 If I was starting from ground up, I would consider this line...

It's never too late, Chris!

I switched over from Adobe about three years ago and never ever looked back. Edius is by far the most underrated NLE, it's a shame that Canopus is not investing more in advertising - even the little advertising they do, they do it in specialty magazines/websites only, sort of preaching to the choir. Now with these heavily compressed codecs finally the editing community is taking notice - after two years on the market, the Canon files are still edited with crutches by ALL of the NLEs even on mega monster computers... except Edius, that runs rock solid even on office computers.

I still have CS4 on my editing machine, and occasionally fire it up, but it is unlikely that I will ever go back. I know you're grounded firmly on Sony land (read hundreds if not thousads of your fine posts) but I still challenge you to give it some more thought; I don't see how you could be dissapointed.

And before anyone calls me an Edius fanboy, here is my statement: the day something better than Edius will hit the market, I will be the first one to switch. For now it fills all my needs, no workarounds, straight import of any format, no proxies, no transcodes, easy editing, straight export to virtually any format.