Edius will edit 7D footage in realtime, full resolution?! at DVinfo.net

Warren Kawamoto · March 5th, 2010, 01:00 PM

Grass Valley Extends Powerful Features of EDIUS Editing To Rapidly Expanding AVCHD Market

At this time, Edius is the only NLE that can do this. Free upgrade for Edius 5 users.

Jack Tran · March 5th, 2010, 02:05 PM

didnt take too much time reading it, but all i got from it is AVCHD and full res.
For me, ive been editing AVCHD w/ sony vegas for almost 2 year nows (generally at low res), export at full.

Anyways, back to the 7D. 7D shoots .MOV , couldnt find that or canon dslr in the article.

Still dont think you can edit .MOV raw...

Ervin Farkas · March 10th, 2010, 02:22 PM

Not sure what you can .mov raw, but just to be clear:

Yes, you can download the .mov files to your PC, load them into Edius and edit away, no transcoding or anything else is necessary.

I've done it.

Jim Forrest · March 11th, 2010, 11:22 PM

But the 7D .mov files are mpeg4-AVC.

Richard Hunter · March 15th, 2010, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Tran

didnt take too much time reading it, but all i got from it is AVCHD and full res.
For me, ive been editing AVCHD w/ sony vegas for almost 2 year nows (generally at low res), export at full.

Anyways, back to the 7D. 7D shoots .MOV , couldnt find that or canon dslr in the article.

Still dont think you can edit .MOV raw...

I'm using Edius 5.12 (current version) and can edit 550D files without any conversion. Even with colour correction applied, the clips still play in realtime, but heavier filters cause it to stutter. The new version 5.5 when it comes will extend that to allow more filters and PIP to run realtime.

Richard

Andy Chan · March 24th, 2010, 09:24 AM

What is your export option?

I also have 550d and a video 1920x1080 30p and I want to export to AVC/H.264 1920x1080 30p but Eidus prompts there is no this option.

Would anybody help?

Rusty Rogers · March 25th, 2010, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Chan

What is your export option?

I also have 550d and a video 1920x1080 30p and I want to export to AVC/H.264 1920x1080 30p but Eidus prompts there is no this option.

Would anybody help?

If you tick "enable conversion" in the exporter plug-in, you can pick 1920x1080 29.97p.
This is the same frame rate as your 550D.

Andy Chan · March 26th, 2010, 02:27 AM

I have tried it, enabled conversion and it prompts AVC/h264 is not usable.

Claire Watson · March 26th, 2010, 08:25 AM

I have a 5D and get the same performance as Richard, the mov clips in Edius play in realtime. A single color correction effect can be added to each clip with no trouble but any more and playback becomes interrupted.

Andy, I'm guessing you have a progressive project setting?

That would explain why you are seeing the export message "AVC/h264 is not usable" since that format is usually for Blue-ray but there is no 30P, it's not BD legal, must be interlaced.

Andy Chan · March 27th, 2010, 04:19 AM

Thank you. I now know that I cannot choose h.264 30p. I need to use h.264 60i instead.

Jon Ching · April 30th, 2010, 11:32 AM

Just wondering how long this took? I'm about to get this camera and edius and wanted to know if it could be done quickly and on what kind of computer setup. Thanks.

Rusty Rogers · May 2nd, 2010, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Ching

Just wondering how long this took? I'm about to get this camera and edius and wanted to know if it could be done quickly and on what kind of computer setup. Thanks.

I can edit 24p projects pretty easily mixing raw .mov's and raw EX1 footage, but don't expect this on a Core2 laptop!
Mine has dual Xeon 5550's and 10k RAID video drives.

Ervin Farkas · May 3rd, 2010, 05:25 AM

What became sort of a mid-range 'standard' computer for video editing in the last year or so (most software companies post some sort of performance benchmarks on this) is the i7 920 processor with a minimum of 6GB of DDR3 RAM (12GB recommended) on the Asus P6T or the X58 mobo.

Both Edis 5.5 and Neo can smoothly edit 2-3 layers of Canon 5D/7D video smoothly on the mentioned configuration. Depending on the number and intensity of the effects you apply, this "smooth" may become less then... erm... smooth, but for basic editing it should fly.

Jon Ching · May 3rd, 2010, 10:56 AM

Ervin,

On your i7 system, how long does it take to process 7D video from the timeline for bluray and HD web files. My current setup takes many times more than realtime to make h.264 files. Thanks.

Ervin Farkas · May 30th, 2010, 11:59 PM

Jon,

Sorry for the long delay... been busy with a million other things, but finally did some testing with Canon files. Export to BluRay 1080i took almost 2x real time, to BluRay 720P about 25% longer than RT, while export to H.264 640x360 pixels at 1Mbps video + 128 Kbps audio was just under real time; export to Canopus HQ at 1080P also just under real time.

Adding some relatively mild effects (color correction) did not change processing times; CPU usage was 60-80%.

I hope this helps,

March 5th, 2010, 01:00 PM	#1
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Edius will edit 7D footage in realtime, full resolution?! Grass Valley Extends Powerful Features of EDIUS Editing To Rapidly Expanding AVCHD Market At this time, Edius is the only NLE that can do this. Free upgrade for Edius 5 users.

March 10th, 2010, 02:22 PM	#3
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Not sure what you can .mov raw, but just to be clear: Yes, you can download the .mov files to your PC, load them into Edius and edit away, no transcoding or anything else is necessary. I've done it. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

March 26th, 2010, 08:25 AM	#9
Claire Watson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stocksfield, England Posts: 86	I have a 5D and get the same performance as Richard, the mov clips in Edius play in realtime. A single color correction effect can be added to each clip with no trouble but any more and playback becomes interrupted. Andy, I'm guessing you have a progressive project setting? That would explain why you are seeing the export message "AVC/h264 is not usable" since that format is usually for Blue-ray but there is no 30P, it's not BD legal, must be interlaced. __________________ Claire

May 3rd, 2010, 05:25 AM	#13
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	What became sort of a mid-range 'standard' computer for video editing in the last year or so (most software companies post some sort of performance benchmarks on this) is the i7 920 processor with a minimum of 6GB of DDR3 RAM (12GB recommended) on the Asus P6T or the X58 mobo. Both Edis 5.5 and Neo can smoothly edit 2-3 layers of Canon 5D/7D video smoothly on the mentioned configuration. Depending on the number and intensity of the effects you apply, this "smooth" may become less then... erm... smooth, but for basic editing it should fly. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

May 30th, 2010, 11:59 PM	#15
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Jon, Sorry for the long delay... been busy with a million other things, but finally did some testing with Canon files. Export to BluRay 1080i took almost 2x real time, to BluRay 720P about 25% longer than RT, while export to H.264 640x360 pixels at 1Mbps video + 128 Kbps audio was just under real time; export to Canopus HQ at 1080P also just under real time. Adding some relatively mild effects (color correction) did not change processing times; CPU usage was 60-80%. I hope this helps, __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

March 5th, 2010, 02:05 PM	#2
Jack Tran Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston USA Posts: 90	didnt take too much time reading it, but all i got from it is AVCHD and full res. For me, ive been editing AVCHD w/ sony vegas for almost 2 year nows (generally at low res), export at full. Anyways, back to the 7D. 7D shoots .MOV , couldnt find that or canon dslr in the article. Still dont think you can edit .MOV raw...

March 11th, 2010, 11:22 PM	#4
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	But the 7D .mov files are mpeg4-AVC.

March 24th, 2010, 09:24 AM	#6
Andy Chan New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 12	What is your export option? I also have 550d and a video 1920x1080 30p and I want to export to AVC/H.264 1920x1080 30p but Eidus prompts there is no this option. Would anybody help?

March 26th, 2010, 02:27 AM	#8
Andy Chan New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 12	I have tried it, enabled conversion and it prompts AVC/h264 is not usable.

March 27th, 2010, 04:19 AM	#10
Andy Chan New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 12	Thank you. I now know that I cannot choose h.264 30p. I need to use h.264 60i instead.

April 30th, 2010, 11:32 AM	#11
Jon Ching New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 8	Just wondering how long this took? I'm about to get this camera and edius and wanted to know if it could be done quickly and on what kind of computer setup. Thanks.

May 3rd, 2010, 10:56 AM	#14
Jon Ching New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 8	Ervin, On your i7 system, how long does it take to process 7D video from the timeline for bluray and HD web files. My current setup takes many times more than realtime to make h.264 files. Thanks.