Hueris announced $500 Indie HD Toolkit at DVinfo.net

Thomas Ferlauto · January 5th, 2004, 07:22 AM

It seems it is still over priced, but I'll let you experts decide.

http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/...=1073279685000

Christopher C. Murphy · January 5th, 2004, 09:28 AM

Wait? Does this mean a G4 1ghz with FCP4 will edit HDV for $500?? What's the difference between our freeware/shareware stuff and this new version by Heuris?

Someone please tell me if this is true - the "MPEG-2 encoding software" mentioned in the article is the same as the $5,000 version?

I'm confused?!

Heath McKnight · January 5th, 2004, 01:14 PM

It's the same thing, pretty much. The difference between the shareware and this is that it's a brand name. They're sticking their name on the product, which means they'll stick by it. Shareware isn't, so if something gets screwed, we're screwed. That's my (and others') take on it.

Will I buy it? Unknown....Money is always tight. That's a month's rent right there!

heath

Christopher C. Murphy · January 5th, 2004, 09:10 PM

But, I think their MPEG-2 encoder is real-time for any G4 1.25 or higher?

I'll spend the money if it does things easily and faster. Does anyone from Hueris ever answer questions on here? I know some of the other companies do and I'm appreciative of that fact.

Murph

Heath McKnight · January 5th, 2004, 11:59 PM

They never called me back...

hwm

Sharon Fraats · January 6th, 2004, 12:22 AM

Please note that it will only work on the JVC JY-HD10U at this time and there is no mention of any others that will be supported in the future.

Heath McKnight · January 6th, 2004, 12:24 AM

Do you work for Heuris?

heath

Sharon Fraats · January 6th, 2004, 01:58 AM

No I just read the same story at Macnn and Maccentral and they both mentioned the camera that it supports.

Christopher C. Murphy · January 6th, 2004, 08:47 AM

Isn't that the HD10U all we care about anyway? I'm sure that they'll upgrade the toolkit to include other cams when they come out. However, at this time...I can see what they're not mentioning anything else....ain't none out to support!

Hey Heath, I just got my hands on a Pentium 4, 2.26hz computer with Windows 2000!!!!!! So, I'm desperately looking through dvinfo for PC solutions...as far as I can recall, the best solution is Vegas with the HD plugin right? I'm not sure if you can point me in the right direction? Also, I can shoot you some footage up here in HD...but, we're in the middle of winter. Everything is covered in snow..

Murph

Heath McKnight · January 6th, 2004, 09:04 AM

Murph,

You can get me that footage (can you do it in DV on an XL-1?) in the Spring, no rush. I have two shorts in front of it.

PC--try Vegas, it's cheap; or, if you have the cash, go for Premiere with the Aspect Plug-In.

heath

Christopher C. Murphy · January 6th, 2004, 09:12 AM

I've got a PD-150 right now. But, I've got friends with GL-2's and I think a XL1s. It depends because by spring people run out and buy new gear! I'll figure something out.

I'll try out Vegas and I have Premiere, but Aspect is $$$...damn. Anyone out there selling a used copy of Aspect?! lol

Murph

Louis Grimaldo · January 7th, 2004, 08:30 AM

On their website it says if you preorder by February 1 you can get it for $399. Does anyone know if you can import into Final Cut and then export back to the camera with this software? Isn't this the last hurdle for Mac users?

Heath McKnight · January 7th, 2004, 08:46 AM

I'm not sure now...

heath

Heath McKnight · January 7th, 2004, 05:16 PM

I took a look at Heuris' Indie HD Toolkit. I compared it to Heuris' Pro Indie HD Toolkit, which is still available for $5000.

The Indie Kit has the XtractorHDV (which gets the footage into the Mac), the XtoHD (which gets it to a DVHS deck) and the XportHD (which an HD mpeg2 encoder so the footage can be accessed on Final Cut Pro--you can't buy this seperately).

The Pro Indie Kit has the XtractorHDV, the XtoHD and the MPEG Power Professional - DTVHD (which encodes the footage so you can go back to the camera--not sure how much of a difference it is from the XportHD), which is still nearly $5000.

What do you all think? Can the Indie HD Toolkit get the footage back to the HD10, or just DVHS?

heath

Christopher C. Murphy · January 7th, 2004, 06:02 PM

From the sounds of it...it's worthless because everything offer is free online now. Right?

Is it non-realtime editing or something? What's up with everyone out there...create a cheap Mac solution, so we can get on with our lives!!!

Murph

January 5th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#1
Thomas Ferlauto New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 24	Huertis announced $500 Indie Toolkit It seems it is still over priced, but I'll let you experts decide. http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/...=1073279685000

January 5th, 2004, 09:28 AM	#2
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Wait? Does this mean a G4 1ghz with FCP4 will edit HDV for $500?? What's the difference between our freeware/shareware stuff and this new version by Heuris? Someone please tell me if this is true - the "MPEG-2 encoding software" mentioned in the article is the same as the $5,000 version? I'm confused?! __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 5th, 2004, 01:14 PM	#3
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	It's the same thing, pretty much. The difference between the shareware and this is that it's a brand name. They're sticking their name on the product, which means they'll stick by it. Shareware isn't, so if something gets screwed, we're screwed. That's my (and others') take on it. Will I buy it? Unknown....Money is always tight. That's a month's rent right there! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 5th, 2004, 09:10 PM	#4
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	But, I think their MPEG-2 encoder is real-time for any G4 1.25 or higher? I'll spend the money if it does things easily and faster. Does anyone from Hueris ever answer questions on here? I know some of the other companies do and I'm appreciative of that fact. Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 5th, 2004, 11:59 PM	#5
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	They never called me back... hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 6th, 2004, 12:22 AM	#6
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	Please note that it will only work on the JVC JY-HD10U at this time and there is no mention of any others that will be supported in the future.

January 6th, 2004, 12:24 AM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Do you work for Heuris? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 6th, 2004, 01:58 AM	#8
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	No I just read the same story at Macnn and Maccentral and they both mentioned the camera that it supports.

January 6th, 2004, 08:47 AM	#9
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Isn't that the HD10U all we care about anyway? I'm sure that they'll upgrade the toolkit to include other cams when they come out. However, at this time...I can see what they're not mentioning anything else....ain't none out to support! Hey Heath, I just got my hands on a Pentium 4, 2.26hz computer with Windows 2000!!!!!! So, I'm desperately looking through dvinfo for PC solutions...as far as I can recall, the best solution is Vegas with the HD plugin right? I'm not sure if you can point me in the right direction? Also, I can shoot you some footage up here in HD...but, we're in the middle of winter. Everything is covered in snow.. Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 6th, 2004, 09:04 AM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Murph, You can get me that footage (can you do it in DV on an XL-1?) in the Spring, no rush. I have two shorts in front of it. PC--try Vegas, it's cheap; or, if you have the cash, go for Premiere with the Aspect Plug-In. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 6th, 2004, 09:12 AM	#11
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	I've got a PD-150 right now. But, I've got friends with GL-2's and I think a XL1s. It depends because by spring people run out and buy new gear! I'll figure something out. I'll try out Vegas and I have Premiere, but Aspect is $$$...damn. Anyone out there selling a used copy of Aspect?! lol Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 7th, 2004, 08:30 AM	#12
Louis Grimaldo Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tampa Posts: 26	On their website it says if you preorder by February 1 you can get it for $399. Does anyone know if you can import into Final Cut and then export back to the camera with this software? Isn't this the last hurdle for Mac users?

January 7th, 2004, 08:46 AM	#13
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I'm not sure now... heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 7th, 2004, 05:16 PM	#14
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I took a look at Heuris' Indie HD Toolkit. I compared it to Heuris' Pro Indie HD Toolkit, which is still available for $5000. The Indie Kit has the XtractorHDV (which gets the footage into the Mac), the XtoHD (which gets it to a DVHS deck) and the XportHD (which an HD mpeg2 encoder so the footage can be accessed on Final Cut Pro--you can't buy this seperately). The Pro Indie Kit has the XtractorHDV, the XtoHD and the MPEG Power Professional - DTVHD (which encodes the footage so you can go back to the camera--not sure how much of a difference it is from the XportHD), which is still nearly $5000. What do you all think? Can the Indie HD Toolkit get the footage back to the HD10, or just DVHS? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 7th, 2004, 06:02 PM	#15
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	From the sounds of it...it's worthless because everything offer is free online now. Right? Is it non-realtime editing or something? What's up with everyone out there...create a cheap Mac solution, so we can get on with our lives!!! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer