Amazing night shot
 

of the train where the box car lettering appears under the light. Almost looks like a weird Tim Burton thing. Batman in Quebec. This camera may be a pain in the butt, but some great art will be made with it both before and after better HDV cameras hit the scene.
Regards, Alan

Well this should be under Eric's post
 

..as I was talking about his church footage post. Beautiful. Alan

Sony hasn't made a big deal of it ....
 

apparently this is an upgrade to a very successful camera line.

I have Sony's and I have Canon's. I really like the Sony's low light capabilities.

New Panasonic's look great, the rest (JVC, etc..) I am not so sure about.

I think we will see a new seperate Sony camera line come out for the HD and 24f crowd. I don't think the PD-150 is supposed to be the next latest and greatest.

After 3-4 years of selling the PD 150, I think Sony has hit a homerun with it. Small upgrades here and there keep the PD 150/170 line comparable and competitive.

I am not in the market for a new camera, however, I would test a PD170 before I bought anything else. I just can't say enough about low lighting.

Important to mention- My Sony's are dear to me because they are the tools of my trade. However, on many occasion my kids are doing something I want to video. I always grab the PD150 before the GL2 because I rarely have to light the room or area.

Thanks for the comments on the church shot Alan, I was very astunished myself while shooting it. This camera has some impressive qualities... It never ceases to amaze me... I am a believer now, I have been since I saw the footage from Paul, I was then pretty sure this camera could "kick ass" and give me the image I am looking for. It did not take much testing to confirm that...

The upgrade from the PD150 to PD170 seems a lot like the upgrade from the Canon GL1 to GL2. The granddaddy upgrade is going to happen, though, and I think you'll se at a minimum 16x9 CCDs and 24p/30p/60i, at least I really hope that becomes standard issue.

has anyone heard of when Sony or Canon plan on introducing their HDV cams? If, so when will they hit the market?

Matt